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Well. they got out of it.  Maybe the finish was well executed but it accomplished nothing.  "Got out of it and nobody was hurt"  thus, nobody was helped.  Compared to Lesnar...real winner, real loser, lots of heat on a guy who can make money, baby face easily positioned for a rubber match down the road with patience ...  all unintentional but because of the way UFC approached the situation.  Vince played right into their hands and the comparison makes UFC/MMA stronger, Vince more of a clown show. 
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I attended both the Dragon Gate USA debut & WWE Night of Champions PPV with two distinctly different sets of people on Saturday and Sunday. On Saturday, I attended with a big ROH fan, a former fan who has turned to MMA and a current fan.

On Sunday, I attended the WWE show with my brother who isn’t really a fan (but knows generally all of the characters).

Both shows succeeded in satisfying everyone I attended with because they played well to their audience.

I would give both shows a thumbs up despite neither having any blow away matches.

 

On Saturday, I’d estimate about 600-700 people were in the old ECW Arena and the crowd was comprised mainly of guys in their 20’s and 30’s. They were hot for most of the show, particularly the BxB Hulk/Yamoto opener (well the last 7-8 minutes that I made it for), the Chikara 8-Man, the Young Bucks/ CIMA & Yokosuka match and the Shingo/Doi main event.

 

The remaining moments of the opener were very good and served the rev the crowd up well.

The Scorpio/Doane match was ok, and made me wonder why WWE gave up on Doane so quickly. He has their look down to a tee combined with great athleticism.

 

The best way to describe the Chikara match would be ‘fun’. The crowd was with them the entire way and they worked a fast paced and crowd pleasing 8 man tag. Jigsaw in particular was very popular and the Chikara guys certainly showed they belonged on the card.

 

The two biggest disappointments on the DG USA show was the Dragon Kid/Yoshino match and the Young Bucks/ CIMA & Yokosuka match. Don’t get me wrong, both were good matches, but the former had a lack of heat compared to most of the rest of the card and suffered from trying to cram a bit too much into the ending of the match.  That complaint can be carried over moreso to tag match.  I’m not sure I was watching the same match a lot of other people were. While there were some great athletic moves, there was *way* too much pandering to the crowd, especially on the part of CIMA & Yokosuka to where several times during the course of the match, they would almost stop what they were doing and command the crowd to start clapping. Frankly, it hurt the flow of the match and came across as rather bush league. The ending was a sprint and not in a good way as there were too many spots crammed in to make any of them mean a thing.

 

However, the main event of Shingo/Doi made up for the flaws of the other matches. It started out slowly and built accordingly instead of trying to work at a total breakneck pace. The work was crisp and it was easily the best match on the show. It went a long way towards giving the show a thumbs up and left me excited about seeing more DGUSA shows.

Almost everyone seemed positive about the show afterwards, though I don’t think anyone thought it was a must see.

 

The next night was a stark contrast in terms of crowd make up. There were tons of kids and families at the Wachovia Center and it was packed. I’d guess in the 15k range allowing for the stage block off. 

Reading some of the big criticisms of the show, I wonder if people realize who WWE is catering mainly to right now.

There were tons of Jeff Hardy, Cena and Mysterio fans.  I wonder about the dead crowd reports since I was in a section (216), where people were way into things (the Mickie James/Maryse match excepted) and loud the entire evening.

While Big Show was a letdown to me as Jericho’s partner, the crowd was into him and I thought the opener was a decent tag match. The heat wasn’t the best, mainly because it was 4 heels in the match, but Jericho and Show ended up being the de facto babyfaces by the end.

I enjoyed Christian/Dreamer more than most it seems. Christian worked really, really hard and the crowd was into it by the end. I enjoyed the finishing sequence and Christian, in his post match really put over winning the ECW title as something big, which, the way ECW is treated, is saying something.

The 6 man for the US title was, like the Chikara match the night before, a fun sprint that the crowd was really into.

Everyone hit their trademark spots and the match even built in a nice little story with the Colon brothers.

I enjoyed Kofi winning, but am hopeful they eventually go to Swagger with the US title, since he seems to have the most upside of this group.

The Michelle McCool/ Melina match was pretty good too, particularly by WWE women’s standards. They worked hard and had a nice little match, though the ending looked botched.

The positioning of the 3 way on the show led me to believe Orton was retaining.

As tired as these three together are (and it’s very tired), the crowd was buzzing for this entire match.

I had some very vocal Cena fans (teenage girls, kids) in my section as well as Cena detracors (all adult males)

There was a small Orton contingent, though he got pretty good heel heat and Triple H was pretty over, (though not incredibly so). These guys had a very, very good match. I noticed in this match and a little later on, that more guys were using submissions, perhaps in an attempt to gravitate the crowd that way.

Anyway, Orton retaining is for the best, but these three really need to be paired up with new opponents for the foreseeable future.

The Maryse/ Mickie James match played to almost total silence. They were in a bad spot on the crowd and the work, while not atrocious was a step down from everything else on the card (including the other women’s match).

Mickie winning did get a mild pop and it would be nice to see her paired with Gail Kim, which could produce some nice women’s matches.

Rey/Ziggler was pretty good. Dolph was fine, though he needs to introduce some transitions other than the chinlock.

He’s got the tools and Rey is a great opponent and fantastic underdog (I know I’m blatantly stating the obvious there).

Crowd interest was minimal at the start, but they were with them at the end.

CM Punk did a nice job on his promo early in the show to build heat and he was pretty roundly booed for the main event, though there were pockets of fans for him. I was worried with Hardy on his way out soon, that word might have spread about it. Hardy got a superstar reaction coming out and there was zero talk of him leaving soon in my section (again made up of mainly of kids and families). I thought they had a good, solid match, probably in the ***1/4 star range, below the level of the 3 way. The ending 5 or so minutes was really good, as everyone bought the Go to Sleep as the finish.

Punk’s looking to leave with the belt when he’s claimed he’s never taken the cheap way out was a nice heel touch.

Hardy winning got over huge and people leaving were all talking about it and seemed generally very pleased with the show.

Though the WWE product has some severe issues with being stale right now, I thought last night’s show at the least delivered.

Paul Jacobi

 

All in all Thumbs in the Middle. Nothing bad about the PPV!
BEST MATCH:Rey Misterio .vs. Dolph Ziggler
WORST MATCH:Mickie James .vs. Maryse

1.UNIFIED TAG:JERICHO/MYSTERY PARTNER .vs. DIBIASE/RHODES
The Big Show as his mystery partner? Slightly dissapointed, but only very slightly. Because, the truth is. It was never promoted to be a  very Big Deal. Important, yes! But not Big. And with exception of the remarks of Jericho against Rhodes and Dibiase, about it being Orton, it wasnt hyped that much. So no, if I expected a Huge Name, it would have been all my fault.
The match itself, was below average. Nothing memorable. I did expect a win from Legacy. But lets see, what Jericho and Big Show will show us.

2.ECW TITLE:Dreamer .vs. Christian
The match was ok. Good effort from both and Tommy Dreamer's run of.... Well Tommy Dreamers Run has ended. The purpose of him being the Champion has been served and I dont expect him to wear the Belt again. Christian .vs. Benjamin? Thats a nice thought.

3.US TITLE SIX WAY:
So Primo is in for Big Show. That is great, as truth to be told Big Show would've been realy out of place in this match. He doesn't belong in the US TITLE Division. I was rooting for The Miz here, as from the 6 Wrestlers, he would've been the most effective in my opinion.Kofi Kingston is worthless with the Title, because they dont book a Feud for him,Carlito does not deserve to hold any Belt and it would only distract of his Feud with Primo, which is Personal and should stay Personal, without a Title. Ditto PRIMO. MVP doesnt need the Title anymore and Jack Swagger,well Jack Swagger could be a good Champion two. I think Swagger, should cut his hair and be a Monster, because his a Close Up of his Victory Pose, where he looks realy mean has potential, instead of being portrayed like a newly College Graduate. So Kofi won and I hope they find a Storyline for him and the Belt.

4.WWE WOMEN'S:Michelle McCool .vs. Melina
It was ok. It's sad,that every Women's Wrestler is the same. As in, they are getting a makeup and well Diva Treatment. Where is Michelle the No-Nonsense Athlete?Where is Melina, the proud Hispanic Woman? Any character please.

5.WWE TITLE:Oh, the match was great and very exciting. They did a good job, of building suspense and Action.
But the ending was again, so lame in my opinion. I mean, how many times can Rhodes and Dibiase run out and save Randy Orton? Maybe, Brian Gerwitz and the other writers, should focus more on the Main Matches on their PPV, instead of what to do with RAW's Celebrity Hosts. That is so killing their longterm Planning.

6.WWE DIVAS TITLE: Maryse, has so the perfect Character. But she sucks as a Wrestler. And she doesnt need to be. If they would go back to the things that worked in the past, she would be a great Manager and not only Valet, but Manager!
The match sucked! They should've cut 2 minutes of it and gave it to Michelle and Melina.

7.WWE IC TITLE: I loved this match. It realy elevated Dolph more, even though he lost. And heck, I assume the feud will continue on Smackdown and it is realy important, that the first Title win of Dolph Ziggler means something and him winning it in their very first match, would've meant little. The suspense was there, the Action was great! Good match.

8.WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE:
I was pissed at the ending. So pissed. Of course, because I'm a fan of CM Punk.
All in all they did a great job and Jeff Hardy's Victory is ok. What does it mean for the Contract Situation? That is behind the scene stuff and I will find that out in the Observer. As a fan watching the Product, I will continue following the feud, which is definetely not over and it  has to include John Morrison or the thought proccess of "IT DOESNT MATTER, WHO WINS OR LOSES" by the fans will continue. Oh and did I say, that I was pissed that CM Punk lost? But in a Wrestling Fan kind of way.

Got nothing bad to say about the PPV.

FRANCIS MEISTER!

 


Vince is getting sloppy in his old age
 
  I thought it was really clever to start with the tag match because 
the mystery partner is a good way to get the crowd to pop and get into 
the show early.  BUT....
 
The fucking Big Slow? How about Swagger, Miz, or Ziggler.  Or even 
Kane who looks rejuvinated after some much needed time off.
 
Or since tag teams mean nothing in the WWE, why not go with Morrison 
and then have Legacy win so it naturally progresses into a 
Jericho-Morrison feud.
 
Also; now we have deal with the Big Slow for 2 shows a week.
 
The Big Slow has never been more worthless to the WWE.  He has X-Pac 
heat.  He sucks the life out of the crowd.  And yet he is continuosly 
put into high profile programs.
 
 
They are booking Orton (and Legacy) to have zero credibility. The only 
way the Legacy act is going to get WHITE HOT HEAT is if ALL the 
members are built strong.  But because Rhodes and DiBiase are 
Hawkins/Ryder 2K9, the results of their matches are grown inducing.  
Not to mention ORton never looks strong in defeat.  Where's the 
horsemen beatdown that leaves them in a pool of blood?
 
I don't think there is anything worse for someone then to be booked 
into a feud with Cena or HHH.  The only people who have ever 
benefitted are Edge (w/Cena) and Batista (w/HHH).  Steiner, RVD, 
Booker, Kane, Orton, Goldberg, Jericho, Umaga, Big Slow, Miz all had 
their credibility destroyed by the feuding with either or in some 
cases both Cena and HHH.
 
By the way THumbs down for NOC
Best: Haryd/Punk
Worst: Divas Title
 

Michael Thomas

Hey Dave,


Thumbs Up
Match of the night - Jeff Hardy vs. C.M. Punk
Worst Match - Maryse vs. Mickie James (killed the crowd)


I think if they picked almost any other wrestler on the roster besides the Big Show for Jericho's partner, I would have been more excited. Leave it to the WWE to pick the worst choice. Christian, Jack Swagger, The Miz all would have made a lot more sense. The match wasn't too great. Big Show gets the hot tag? Can't wait to see Show on both shows now. Again the WWE has a chance to create a new star and blows it!


C.M. Punk promo - awesome promo by Punk. His heel turn using the straight edge persona has been great.


Christian vs. Tommy Dreamer - Solid match, I thought Christian really carried Dreamer to an above average match. Koslov might be a bit harder to carry.


U.S. Title Match - Really fun match with everyone working hard. All of these guys deserve a chance to be higher on the card.


Michelle McCool vs. Melina - The best WWE Woman's match I've seen in a long time. McCool gets the pin so I guess the feud continues.


Randy Orton vs. HHH vs. John Cena - First thing I thought was Jeff Hardy is getting the belt tonight. Good match but weird ending. Orton taps but still has the belt? Do we really want to see these guys wrestle again at Summerslam? We really need a new program for the title.


Maryse vs Micki James - This match sucked! Maryse shouldn't be in a match longer than a few minutes. Maybe time to put her with the Miz.


Misterio vs. Ziggler - Match wasn't bad but after the woman's match it was in a bad position.


Jeff Hardy vs. C.M. Punk - Good match with a really great finish. I guess Hardy keeps the belt until Summerslam.


Not the greatest card but pretty entertaining. Too bad about the Big Show though.
 
Forbes Burlingham
Oakville, ON

 

 

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