SAT. UPDATE: First Punk vs. Ryback match, Rutten Box Office, 69-year-old legend still packs a whallop, previews of tonight's Bonnar & Fitch matches, WWE signs new announcer, new WWE DVD

By Dave Meltzer
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        We're also looking for reports on the ROH show tonight, as well as last nights WWE show in Jonesboro, AR and tonight's show in Jackson, TN.
        UFC 153 is tonight  from Rio de Janeiro's HSBC Arena
Facebook fights at 7 p.m.
Reza Madadi (12-2, 155) vs. Cristiano Marcello (12-4, 155) 
Chris Camozzi (17-5, 185) vs. Luiz Cane (12-4, 1 no contest, 184)
FX fights at 8 p.m.
Renee Forte (7-1, 169) vs. Sergio Moraes (6-3, 169)
Diego Brandao (9-1, 146) vs. Joey Gambino (19-6, 144)
Gleison Tibau (34-8, 155) vs. Francisco Trinaldo (11-1, 154)
Sam Sicilia (11-1, 146) vs. Rony Jason (12-3, 145)
Main card at 10 p.m.
Demian Maia (16-4, 170) vs. Rick Story (14-5, 170)
Phil Davis (9-1, 1 no contest, 206) vs. Wagner Prado (8-0, 1 no contest, 204)
Jon Fitch (26-4-1, 1 no contest, 170) vs. Erick Silva (14-2, 1 no contest, 169)
Glover Teixeira (18-2, 204) vs. Fabio Maldonado (18-5, 203)
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (33-7-1, 1 no contest, 243) vs. Dave Herman (21-4, 244)
Anderson Silva (30-4, 202) vs. Stephan Bonnar (17-7, 205) in a non-title three round fight at 205 pounds
        ROH Glory by Honor will be on iPPV on Saturday from Mississauaga, ONT at the International Centre
Kevin Steen vs. Michael Elgin for ROH title
Adam Cole vs. Eddie Edwards for TV title
Davey Richards vs. Jay Lethal
Mike Bennett vs. Mike Mondo
Roderick Strong vs. Tadarius Thomas
        Sunday is headlined by Bound for Glory from Grand Canyon University in Phoenix.  The show will start at 7 p.m. Eastern with a one hour show on Spike that will include one mach and the PPV starts at 8 p.m.
Sting & Bully Ray vs. Aces and 8s - If Aces and 8s lose , they leave TNA, if they win they get full access
Austin Aries vs. Jeff Hardy for TNA title
Bobby Roode vs. James Storm street fight with King Mo as guest enforcer
Christopher Daniels & Kazarian vs. A.J. Styles & Kurt Angle vs. Chavo Guerrero Jr. & Hernandez for tag titles
Samoa Joe vs. Magnus for TV title
Brooke Tessmacher vs. Tara for Knockouts title
Zema Ion vs. Rob Van Dam for X title
Al Snow vs. Joey Ryan
        Raw will be Monday in Nashville.  The key story is whether C.M. Punk will "pick" Ryback or John Cena as his opponent for Hell in a Cell.  The decision has not been made and won't be made until Monday afternoon after an evaluation of Cena's elbow.
        Smackdown will be on Tuesday in Memphis.  Jerry Lawler is scheduled to appear at the show. 
        A look at the Raw ratings and the WWE shakeups after the 15 year low on October 1 is the lead story in the new issue of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter.  It's an issue jammed with news, including the most detailed look at the Hulk Hogan sex tape scandal with a lot of new information, Vince McMahon's response to the ratings, the C.M. Punk incident hitting the fan in Sacramento, A look at TNA's Bound for Glory show, Steve Austin vs.C.M. Punk, the New Japan PPV show, the ROH booking change and WrestleMania 2013.
        Both the issue and a back issue from 1995 will be up on the site today.
        The lead story looks at changes made regarding bringing Vince McMahon back, what happened with Brian Gewirtz, how his role had changed, how the writing team is structured, who are the lead writers, the McMahon vs. C.M. Punk brawl, as well as the current A and B plan for Hell in a Cell.
        We also have a detailed look at Hogan and the sex tape.
        We have notes on the incident with C.M. Punk and the fan, as well as local coverage of the incident and reaction from both WWE and Punk.
        We've got a rundown on Bound for Glory, looking at the programs going in and the fan reaction to the major angles.
        We also look at one of the best PPV shows in recent years, the New Japan King of Pro Wrestling show featuring the Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Minoru Suzuki match.  We look at business numbers on the show, a very positive stat as well as another stat which isn't nearly so positive.  We've got match-by-match coverage as well as star ratings.
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        We also look at UFC's show this past week, why two matches didn't happen, the injury that led to the main event ending fast, business notes, ratings and more.
        We also look at the C.M. Punk vs. Steve Austin rivalry, the taped seeming beginning of an angle, the Linda McMahon campaign, what people in Connecticut really think of pro wrestling, WWE end of the year television schedule and why they have two shows that will almost surely do record low numbers before the year is out.  We also look at Sara Del Rey in WWE, just how valuable C.M. Punk has been to WWE of late, more WWE firings and departures that have not gotten out, Chris Jericho talks his future, the latest on Ric Flair and WWE, update on WWE injuries, as well as business notes from the past week and a look at all the weekend WWE house shows.
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         We also have a look at the ratings of all the major shows and complete details on how every segment of Raw and Impact this past week did.  We look at what segments gained and lost viewers
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--Notes from Arena Mexico
--Son of former WWF and WCW star now in Mexico
--U.S. belts defended in Dragon Gate this past week
--What would have been a major dream match in the 90s is announced as a Hall of Fame candidate comes out of retirement at the age of 51 to face a current world champion he never faced in his heyday.
--All Japan creates a TV champion and notes on the tournament
--Next major All Japan show lineup
--Pro Wrestling NOAH's show that went head-to-head with the new Japan PPV with Morishima vs. Akiyama
--A look at the upcoming Global  League singles tournament
--Notes on New Japan jr. heavyweight tag team tournament
--Zuffa heavyweight appearing on pro wrestling show next week
--The latest on Tammy Sytch
--Adam Copeland talks about no longer being Edge
--When he targeted ending his career originally
--More on the death of  Bobby Jaggers
--Notes on Tommy Dreamer's House of Hardcore promotion debut show
--Target for a second show
--Linda Hogan's latest arrest
--Notes on next ROH iPPV card and direction
--Weekend ROH house show note
--King Mo situation
--What former TNA star is close to returning
--TNA house show notes
--How the change in a television channel could affect UFC
--More problems with the next Strikeforce show
--Why UFC is adding a new clause in all future talent contracts and what led to it
--Notes on the Brazil PPV
--Two UFC stars will be forever linked together
--UFC does one of its best ever television commercials
--Notes on UFC's year-end show
--Several UFC cuts
--Dana White talks TV numbers and what they learned from the England show
--Dana White cuts a promo on Spike TV
--Promotion's biggest star in his probable last match before leaving
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Saturday's news update
--Bryan and I will be back tonight talking UFC 153 and the latest pro wrestling and MMA news after the show.  You can always send questions in to This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
--The movie "Here Comes The Boom," with Kevin James, that reports have Bas Rutten stealing, did $3,625,000 at the box office last night, for fifth place.  It is predicted to come in at between $11 million and $12 million in its opening weekend.  The movie got 44% positive reviews on Rotten Tomatoes.  I'm going to see it as soon as there is a weekend night without a major show.  At this rate that's going to be March 2013.
--I've got articles on last night's Bellator shows, as well as new articles on both Jon Fitch and Stephan Bonnar's fights tonight at
--There was an incident at a wrestling convention in the Northeast today.  Not sure what led to it, but Harley Race, 69, punched Vader in the face.  The reports were that Vader was being belligerent.  Vader went to hit Race, who needs a motorized cart to get around.  One of the sponsors got in between them and Vader accidentally hit him and hurt him.  Race and Vader ended up in the hallway discussing whatever their problem was.
--Renee Paquette of The Score's Aftermath, the Raw post-game show, has been hired by WWE and there are reports she will become the interview woman on Raw.  Paquette has been listed as one of Canada's sexiest sportscasters.     
--At the house show last night, the first C.M. Punk vs. Ryback match ended when Punk was DQ'd for using a low blow.  That's likely the finish they'll go with the rest of the weekend.   
--WWE announced they will be releasing a Top 100 moments in Raw history DVD for December. (thanks to Kyle Schroeder)
Who would draw more against C.M. Punk at Hell in a Cell?
John Cena 60.6%
Ryback 39.4%
Will UFC 153 triple the North American buys of Hell in a Cell?
Yes 37.3%
No 62.7%
Will Bound for Glory top 22,000 buys?
Yes 26.7%
No 73.3%
Poll on Impact from Thursday 
Excellent 17.3%
Good 27.8%
Average 30.8%
Fair 8.3%
Poor 15.8%
        40.4% of those responding didn't see the show
--For those interested, here are the power ratings for some of the wrestlers in WWE 13
John Cena - 96
C.M. Punk - 95
Randy Orton - 92
Big Show - 92
Vince McMahon - 81  
--PCW on 10/25 at Doubles Fun Club in Winnipeg.
--559 Fights returns to the Tulare County Fairgrounds in Tulare, CA on 10/27 with the amateur Northern California championships
--Bas Rutten talks "Here Comes the Boom," his other movie work, Alistair Overeem, Ronda Rousey and more at
--Alex Koslov of the IWGP jr. tag team champion Forever Hooligans will be in the U.S. for 11/12 until mid-January and is looking for bookings.  He is based in Los Angeles.  If you're interested in booking him he is at This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
--Wolfie D has opened a pro wrestling school in Nashville which will have training every Monday and Wednesday night from 7-9 p.m.   Wrestler training is $200 per month plus a $50 one-time fee.  Manager, valet and referee training is $100 per month with a $50 one-time fee.  For more info you can contact him at This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
--Daniel Ghita and Rico Verhoeven have signed exclusive contracts with GLORY.  Ghita is one of the best heavyweights in kickboxing.  Both are expected to debut with the promotion as part of the 16-man one-night tournament on 12/2 in Tokyo. 
--Canadian Wrestling Elite from last night in Winnipeg:  Big Sexy Beasts b Samuel & Zamil, Bobby Collins b Mystery Man-DQ, Kevin Cannon NC Lizzy Slade, Danny Duggan b Tyler Colton, Mike Mission & Billy Blaze b Bubble McFly & Cory Diamond, Big Sexy Beasts b Kevin Cannon & Mystery Client.  Next free show at the Northern Hotel in Winnipeg is 11/28.  they have a show on 11/9 in Thunder Bay, ONT headlined by Tommy Dreamer vs. Kevy Chevy vs. Robby Royce, plus Carlito vs. Gangrel.
--3XW Wrestling Halloween Horror on 10/26 in Des Monies at Baratta's Forte Center for a TV taping.
--Smash Wrestling debuts on 10/28 in Toronto at E-Zone at 5 p.m. with Matt Cross, Tyson Dux, Michae Elgin, Tadaius Thomas and Gregory Iron.  After the show, all fans can attend a part at the E-Zone that will allow you to watch WWE's Hell in a Cell PPV.
--Pro Wrestling Battle Arts from last night in Oshawa, ONT:  Brent Banks b John Greed, Phil Atlas b Michael Elgin, Alex Vega over Abe Jackson, Lionel Knight and Johnny Wave, Eddie Edwards b Marcus Marquez, Christopher Bishop b Ethan Page, Roderick Strong b Josh Alexander (thanks to Dave Musgrave)
--Adrenaline Championship Wrestling on 12/8 in Millersville, MD at the OBI Building features D-Line vs. Mark & Jay Briscoe.
--Wreck MMA's 10th show will be 11/9 in Gatineau, Quebec at Casino Lac-Leamy.  Randy Turner faces former TUF fighter Josh Ferguson in the main event plus Nabil Kahtib vs. Mark Holst.
--Vintage Pro Wrestling tonight in Sanford, FL at the Salvation Army Gym with a Rumble.
--Ross Williams has recently finished writing a book called "The Hardcore Truth" the autobiography of Bob Holly, that will be published by ECW Press in early 2013.
--Destiny Wrestling at 5:30 p.m. today in Albuquerque, NM at Lovato Total Fitness.
--Platinum Championship Wrestling on 9/15 in Porterdale, GA at 2001 Main St.
--Carson defeated Shaun Tempers last night in Houston to became the new NWA North American champion.  A rematch between the two takes place on Sunday in Austin, TX for NWA Velocity.

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