THURS. UPDATE: Armstrong thoughts, WWE earnings, new TNA PPV bout, Smackdown tomorrow, WWE notes from Europe, Super match on weekend TV, New Authority figure in ROH

By Dave Meltzer
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Raw from yesterday in Strasbourg, France
Raw from today in Nantes, France
Smackdown from today in Lyon, France
        We're also looking for reports on the rest of the tour over the next two weeks.
        After today, Raw moves to Newcastle, England on Friday and Manchester, England on Saturday.
        Smackdown runs Friday in Hamburg, Germany and a Saturday show in Leipzig, Germany.
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--Next AAA tapings
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--GHC tag title change and where that belt is going
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--Update on Tajiri's promotion in Japan using several top Americans
--A promotion lets the fans make the card
--Notes on tha attempted comeback of Jake Roberts
--How Mike Graham's pro wrestling career got started and his first major TV angle
--The angle that got Mike Graham out of Eddie's shadow and let to Dusty Rhodes being the biggest star in Florida wresting history
--Who booked the angle
--NWA title vacated and match to decide the new champion
--Extreme Rising runs in the Pittsburgh area and plans for WrestleMania weekend
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--Notes on this weekend's ROH TV tapings
--Notes on Hulk Hogan's quick settlement with Bubba the Love Sponge
--Bound for Glory PPV notes
--TNA star doing outside media work
--TNA wrestler hospitalized with kidney issues but already back
--The strange TNA announcing dynamic
--Lineup for Turning Point thus far and new matches likely added
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--Notes on the ungodly hour the next UFC show will be airing at
--New UFC television specials over the next two weeks
--Story on UFC no longer running at The Palms in Las Vegas
--Lots of new UFC matches announced
--Plans for UFC light heavyweight division and how they changed
--Notes on the next season of TUF Brazil including a June main event
--UFC fighter nearly loses home in Hurricane
--Stephan Bonnar retires
--UFC PPV estimates
--Chad Mendes legal issues and sentencing
--A few UFC cuts
--The Eddie Alvarez contract situation
--Controversial officiating on Bellator show
--Lots of shows this coming weekend on TV
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Thursday's news update
--Sorry for this being late.  My house had to be rewired for Internet, phones, pretty much everything which kept me out of commission all day.
--Very sad news regarding Brad Armstrong to say the least.  Brad was one of those guys where every wrestler will tell you that he was a great worker and had a very pleasant personality, really funny.  I can recall how Ric Flair loved to work with him because he was that Barry Windham/Ricky Morton/Ricky Steamboat style of babyface who could sell, comeback, do anything and almost never miss.  There was a saying in WCW during the 90s that whenever a new guy faced Brad, you could tell right away if they had potential in the ring because Brad was the guy who was always in the right spot to make anyone look good.  He was very high on the list of the most underrated in-ring performers of the last 40 years.  All of us here want to express our sympathies to the entire family.  I had heard from someone who saw him not that long ago that he was healthy looking, great shape for his age, said he was still training and he was still doing indie shows on occasion.  Too many shocks, and not good ones, in the last several weeks.        
--We'll have a complete rundown of the WWE earnings call in next week's Observer.  Revenues were $104.2 million and profits were $5.0 million for the quarter, so profits were less than dividend payouts again.  Not unexpected, and they actually did better than they suggested three months ago.  The big news regarding the Network was really quite sketchy, just saying that it'll be a pay model and then talking about a firm that told them they had more than 100 million fans in the U.S. alone.  I need to hire that firm to see if they can inflate my annual income as much as that figure.  Video sales and video games were down.  House shows were even, and PPV was actually only up slightly as far as revenue because there were less late buys recorded for Mania as compared to last year.  Actual PPV sales were up 13%, with the increase mostly SummerSlam.  Less money losses from the movie division.  They talked about ratings being good even though three of the four lowest rated Raws since 1997 have been in recent weeks.            
--Jim Ross on Brad Armstrong at  Saw that the Armstrong family read it and asked if they could have it read at Brad's funeral.
--Big question everyone asking is on Monday and Tuesday are Vince & Stephanie in Connecticut to be with Linda on the countdown and election day or do they go to Europe?
--TNA announced Samoa Joe vs. Magnus no DQ for Turning Point PPV on 10/11.
--Regarding rumors to the contrary, Smackdown will air at its regular time tomorrow night.  There is a concert with Bruce Springsteen, Billy Joel and Bon Jovi to raise money for the victims of Hurricane Sandy that airs on Syfy, but it is airing at 11 p.m., after Smackdown and Haven.
--C.M. Punk interview with Brian Soscia at
--At the Raw show today in Nantes, France, they had C.M. Punk getting DQ'd for a chair shot on Ryback in the main event.  John Cena had a strong match with Dolph Ziggler.
--Ricardo Rodriguez worked today under a mask as El Local against Sin Cara in a singles match in Lyon, France.  In a surprise they put Johnny Curtis over Ted DiBiase.
--Melvin Guillard vs. Jamie Varner has been added to the TUF finals on 12/15 in Las Vegas, airing on FX.
--Bellator weigh-ins for tomorrow's TV show
Kyle Baker (170.8) vs. Ryan Ford (169.8)
Douglas Lima (179.4) vs. Jacob Ortiz (179.8) - 180 pound catch weight bout
Mike Richman (145.2) vs. Shahbulat Shamhalaev (145.6) in the featherweight tourney semifinal
Richard Hale (238.4) vs. Thiago Santos (265) in the heavyweight tournament semifinal   
--Bellator's 11/30 TV show comes from Mt. Pleasant, MI as the Soaring Eagle Casino & Resort.
--ROH will be introducing its new television authority figure to replace Jim Cornette at Saturday's TV taping in Belle Vernon, PA at the Rostraver Ice Arena.  Trivia note, the last time I saw Bruno Sammartino, which was more than a decade ago, it was in that building at a benefit show for the late Brian Hildebrand, who was also one of the most respected people in the industry of that time.
--ROH announced shows on 1/18 in Dearborn, MI, 1/19 in Milwaukee and 2/16 in Cincinnati.
--Davey Richards vs. Jay Lethal from Glory by Honor, an absolutely fantastic match, will be replayed on the ROH TV show that airs on Saturday night.
--Dragon Gate USA iPPV at 8 p.m. Eastern tomorrow night from Everett, MA with AR Fox vs. Ricochet, Genki Horiguchi & Ryo Saito vs. Super Smash Brothers with the winners getting a tag title shot the next night in Voorhees, NJ; Rich Swann & Cima & ACH vs. Chuck Taylor & Orange Cassidy & Drew Gulak, Akira Tozawa vs. Jon Davis, Sami Callihan vs. Samuray del Sol, Johnny Gargano vs. EITA, Scott Reed & Caleb Konley with Larry Dallas and Trina Michaels vs. Arik Cannon & Pinkie Sanchez as the card on  Also run at 8 p.m. on Saturday and a Deer Park, NY show at 8 p.m. on Sunday, which is the usual Sunday PPV time.  We'll have more on all this tomorrow.
--Chris Jericho appears on VH-1's America Hard 100 at 9 p.m. tomorrow night.
--Claudia Weicker, whose husband Lowell Weicker was on the WWE Board of Directors for years, is heavily critical of Linda McMahon here at 
--Trish Stratus is releasing a limited edition autographed DVD of Stratusphere Yoga for Men, which she worked with Joe Carter of the Toronto Blue Jays on.  Some proceedds will go to Movember Canada.  Stratus has designed programs for members of the Toronto Maple Leafs, and this is a workout for athletes.  For more info go to
--NWA Coastal on 11/17 in Bayville, NJ at the Elks Lodge featuring an NWA women's title defense by Kacee Carlisle against Rosa Negra.
--I Believe in Wrestling tomorrow night at the Team Vision Dojo in Orlando with Cody Hall, Tim Zbyszko, Chasyn Rance, Santana Garrett, Lince Dorado and others.
--Both Cody Hall and Tim Zbyszko are trying to work more independent dates and promoters can reach them at This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it  
--Albert Kraus is out of Saturday's Glory 3 Final 8 show due to a bad case of the flu.  Yoshihiro Sato will replace him in the one-night eight-man tournament for $300,000.  The show takes place in Rome, Italy and airs at at 3:30 p.m. Saturday Eastern time.
--River City Wrestling on 11/10 at the Good Shepherd Lutheran Church in San Antonio with Hernandez and D-Lo Brown.
--C.M. Punk talks WWE 13 at (thanks to Daryl Thomen)
--Chael Sonnen on TSN's Off the Record today said that Dan Henderson would be one of the guest coaches for his team on the currently filming season of Ultimate Fighter.  "Henderson and I are obviously up to something.  We're in cahoots.  Henderson will be one of the coaches on this show with me and he will be cornering me on April 27th when I take what is rightfully mine, which is the light heavyweight championship."  Interview is at  Notable because just yesterday Henderson said that Sonnen getting a title shot was bad for the sport.  The "we're in cahoots" line was a spoof on Greg Jackson and Jon Jones acting like Henderson and Sonnen were in cahoots to steal the title from an unaware Jones until they pulled out of that show on 9/1.
John Cena 28.4%
Curt Hennig 22.5%
Edge 9.6%
Owen Hart 9.0%
Ivan Koloff 8.1%
Fabulous Moolah 8.1%
Brock Lesnar 7.4%
Tim Woods 2.0%
Von Brauners 1.7%
Kane 1.5%
Batista 0.9%
Jeff Hardy 0.9%
Sting 38.1%
Rock & Roll Express 16.7%
Pedro Morales 7.6%
Dick Murdoch 7.2%
Lou Albano 6.1%
Jimmy Snuka 5.5%
Bill Apter 4.7%
Sgt. Slaughter 4.5%
Gary Hart 3.6%
Jim Crockett Jr. 2.3%
Buddy Rose 2.1%
Mr. Wrestling II 1.7%
Chael Sonnen 65.3%
Dan Henderson 28.4%
Lyoto Machida 4.0%
Shogun Rua 2.3%
Rulon Gardner 45.7%
Dan Gable 28.2%
Cael Sanderson 10.3%
David Schultz 7.2%
Jeff Blatnick 5.7%
Mark Schultz 2.9%
Fedor Emelianenko 50.7%
Randy Couture 17.8%
Brock Lesnar 11.2%
Dan Severn 5.4%
Ken Shamrock 4.3%
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira 3.9%
Junior Dos Santos 3.0%
Alistair Overeem 1.1%
Frank Mir 0.7%
Mark Coleman 0.6%
Josh Barnett 0.6%
Fabricio Werdum 0.6%
--The Fight Network in Canada is going to be available in the U.S. for the first time on a subscription basis at  If one orders a one year subscription, they will get two months added free.       

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