Meltzer update: Orton update, CBS thoughts, WWE DUI, Lita, Impact tapings, EliteXC, more



By Dave Meltzer

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We're still looking for your thoughts on last night's WWE One Night Stand, as well as last night's WEC show, Saturday night's Elite XC show on CBS and Friday night's ROH show, so you can leave a thumbs up, thumbs down or thumbs in the middle along with a best and worst match for each individual show at This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it

We're also looking for reports on tonight's Raw from Bakersfield with dark matches and anything else not evident from watching the PPV. It will be interesting because I believe this will be the first week without taping Heat before Raw, so wondering if they do more developmental talent matches or just do a shorter show.

Smackdown and ECW are taped on Tuesday night at the Staples Center in Los Angeles. The Cousin Sal of the Jimmy Kimmel show vs. Santino Marella match will be taped on Tuesday for airing the following Friday.

If you haven't had enough MMA, the Countdown to UFC 85 featuring Matt Hughes and Thiago Alves airs tonight on Spike at 11 p.m. as well as Saturday at 2 p.m. (interestingly, that would be during the show itself for West Coast viewers)

We have a look at Vince McMahon's million dollar offer and part one of a look at what will be the most controversial wrestling book in years as lead items in this coming Monday's issue of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter.

We look at the wording of what Vince McMahon said, look at the draft and other changes in WWE plans as well as some backstage reaction to those changes.

We have the first part of our look at the book "Ring of Hell," looking at the portrayals of wrestlers, fans, the research what book it's comparable to, a look at some of the conclusions, wrestlers who destroyed their bodies, Japanese society and the long-term results of pro wrestling.

We have an update on a lawsuit filed against WWE that has now been concluded, as well as more on William Regal, a type of new wrestler WWE is looking for, recent WWE business notes and more on ideas for next year's Wrestlemania.

We also look at the Hogan family, the taped messages, the expected lawsuit from the Grazianos as well as the media coverage of the family.

We have more on the parting of Tito Ortiz and the UFC, looking at exactly what happened at the press conference, what the match with Lyoto Machida showed about Ortiz, business notes on the show as well as both the payoffs and some bonuses that haven't been released publicly, as well as preshow buy rate predictions that surprised me. We look at where Dana White was during the match, the crowd reaction to Sean Sherk, talks of UFC going to a major stadium, the return of Chuck Liddell and Anderson Silva, as well as match-by-match coverage and poll results of UFC 84.

We also have a look at what happened with CMLL and WWE went head-to-head with major shows and what is currently the No. 1 pro wrestling city in the world.

We've got more on Brock Lesnar and Heath Herring, and Mark Coleman's injury and future.

We also have our usual weekly features with major TV show rundowns and detailed look at the ratings of every show and segment-by-segment ratings to see what angles and matches were and weren't successful this past week.

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--Major network show on wrestling and what happened

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--What former WWE star was TNA looking to sing and who got the spot instead

--A look at upcoming TNA TV shows

--Update on the Randy Couture case

--A jinxed PPV show

--Updates on ticket sales to all upcoming UFC shows

--Media destroys Dana White and why

--Dream middleweight tournament update

--K-1 Max tournament update

--More new Dream and UFC matches

--Update on Elite XC losses

--MMA stars on magazine covers

--Gary Shaw makes comment that he better not be taking literally

--Promoters argue B.J. Penn vs. Kimbo Slice

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--Tomorrow's WWE press conference at the Staples Center in Los Angeles will be for the $1 million giveaway. It is a total of $1 million and not $1 million per week. I had that feeling watching how uniquely worded McMahon's message ended up being. What will happen is that you have to go to the wwe.com web site and register with name, address, phone number (to help compile a merchandise catalog listing if they are smart and they usually are in these things). At the beginning of Raw each week as long as this goes on, they will give a code. During the show, Vince will call someone up at random and ask for the code. If they are watching, they'll know and get money, although the amount isn't known yet and maybe announced on tonight's show. Appearing at the press conference will be Chris McCumber of USA Network, wrestlers and Divas, and Gabe Carp of E-Prize, which must be involved. Vince will have $1 million in cash to show off at the press conference. The first week they will attempt to give away Monday is 6/9.

--Smackdown did a 2.2 on the fast nationals while Impact did a 1.0 on Thursday.

--Randy Orton doesn't need surgery for his broken left collarbone and early indications are he'll be back in about three months.

--We'll try and update later in the week on Undertaker and whether it's a short of long sabbatical to sell the stipulation from losing last night to Edge.

--Another WWE DUI in Tampa this week. Mike Brendli, aka Mikey or Mike Mondo, was arrested last night at 11:12 a.m. with a 0.09 blood alcohol level. Anything over 0.08 is illegal. Between him, Ted DiBiase Jr. and Santino Marella in recent weeks, I have feeling John Laurinaitis is going to make some regulation changes.

--Batista vs. Edge is being advertised as the main event for the Smackdown tapings in Los Angeles. Likely a dark match.

--Make no mistake about it, the face of MMA changed big time this weekend. It's all over the sports news because of the rating Elite XC got. UFC is not happy, at least about the rating. They are likely thrilled over last night's show in Sacramento. Can you imagine if last night's show was the one on CBS? Probably wouldn't have done the same rating, because Kimbo Slice drew that number, but Urijah Faber and Miguel Torres would be instant superstars.

--Jim Rome spent an hour on MMA today with Dan Wetzel of Yahoo! talking about Elite XC. The gist was the MMA hardcore fans hated the show, but everyone else loved the show. They said the fighting wasn't good, but the show was entertaining. Rome also said how weird it is with baseball in full swing, and the NBA finals set, how MMA was the sports story people are most talking about. (thanks to Roy Kendal)

--Poll on Elite XC
Excellent 13.8%
Good 39.1%
Average 19.4%
Fair 11.1%
Poor 16.7%
24.4% of those responding didn't see the show

--Sportscenter on ESPN last night showed Shawne Merriman laying out Chavo Guerrero with a chair shot from last night during its regular rotation. (thanks to Steve Maudlin)

--In other UFC TV this week, Unleashed on Wednesday at 9 pm.. is listed as headlined by the Anderson Silva vs. Travis Lutter match. There will be a second Unleashed Wednesday at 11 p.m. after Ultimate Fighter featuring Clay Guida vs. Marcus Aurelio and Leonard Garcia vs. Roger Huerta. The Best of 2007 special replays both Friday night at 9 p.m. and Saturday morning at 9 a.m.

--Lita's Luchagores are playing 6/5 in Atlanta at Smith's Old Bar in an over-21 show

--Did anyone with Tivo have problems with the Elite XC show? Reader Shane Madison said he recorded it off the Minneapolis CBS station and when he watched, the screen was blank saying "no video input"

--There is a story on the death of Rudy Kay at www.thechronicleherald.ca/Canada/1059446.html noting that the Cormier Brothers to those who grew up in New Brunswick were like the Hart family in Western Canada.

--Top Rope Promotions in Fall River, MA announced Bobby Cruise, the ROH ring announcer, as the new booker

--TNA Impact tapings starting a week from tonight in Orlando have been moved up to a 5:30 p.m. start. We're still looking for a regular correspondent for those shows.

--Mike Tirico today talked about the Elite XC show, saying it being on a big four network gave the sport credibility. Neither he nor co-host Michelle Tafoya said they could get into because of the violence and Tafoya didn't like they fought in cages. Tirico noted the "so-called MMA experts" (his words) ripped on Kimbo being used to draw ratings, but in the end, he did. (thanks to Jonathan D'Antoni)

--Tons of radio hosts were talking about Kimbo Slice and the show. On the Mike in the Morning show in Detroit, the hosts thought Slice was the top fighter in the sport, and they didn't even know wha UFC was. The host said he saw something similar a few years back but found it boring. A co-host asked of Elite XC was going to be the big competition for WWE. They just talked about ratings and all agreed Gina Carano had the best fight. (thanks to Mike Malasev)

--The next ROH PPV replay is 11 a.m. tomorrow, Wednesday at 7 a.m. and 2 p.m. and Thursday at 11 a.m. on inDemand. They weren't exaggerating about bad time slots. Dish has an all day ticket Tuesday, Thursday, Friday and Sunday. Most of ROH PPV buys come from inDemand.

--The next Sportfight in Portland at the Rose Garden is 6/20 headlined by Michael Pierce vs. Nathan Coy in a battle of unbeaten fighters. Former UFC fighters Fabiano Scherner and Ryan Jensen are on the card.

--Great Championship Wrestling on 6/5 in Phenix City, AL with David Young vs. Sonny Siaki

--AWA World 1 South from Friday night in Ellaville, GA before 159 fans: Ricky Romero b Big Bank Barfield, Lou Cypher DDQ Pain, Francico Ciatso b Barney rumble, Chick Donovan & J-Rod b Jake Slater & Pete Cannon, Tommy Rich b The Bug (Ciatso)

--Today is the 10th anniversary of the death of JYD at the age of 45 and the fifth anniversary of the death of Freddie Blassie at 85. Those bring back some memories.

--Lex Luger turns 50 today and TNA wrestlers A.J. Styles (30) and Velvet Sky (27) also have birthdays (thanks to Rich Tate)

--Yesterday was the 25th anniversary of the first ever sellout at the Omni in Atlanta, when Harley Race defended his world title against Mr. Wrestling, Tim Woods, who announced he would unmask before the match. They went to a 60 minute draw

--NWS from Friday night in Lacey Township, NJ before 400 fans: Ryan Blackheart won Battle Royal, J.D. Smoothie won three-way over Mikey Pacifica and Golden Lynx, Tito Santana b Ace Darling, Patriot & Famous Clown b Saddam Insane & TNT, Equalizer b Ryan Blackheart, Rhett Titus b Nicky Oceans, Eugene b Sal Sincere

--Kaiji Big Battel in Philadelphia from Saturday night before 200 fans: Pedro Planmtain b Grudyin, Sun Buster b Vegetius, Hero Intern 08 b Tucor, American Beetle b Chris Hero, Uchu Chu b Neo Teppen to win Kaiji Grand title (thanks to James Burrows)

--NWA Anarchy from Saturday night in Cornelia, GA before 275 fans at half priced tickets: Bo Newsom over Andrew Pendleton and Jay Clinton, Jeff Lewis & Brodie Chase & Melissa Coates & Andrew Alexander & Kyle Matthews & Bob Smith & Tyler Smith b Don Matthews & Billy Buck & Chris King & Wes Grissom & Chip Day & Adrian Hawkins & T.K. Cross, Iceberg b Shatter, Mikal Judas & Ace Rockwell & Derrick Driver & Steven Walters b Todd Sexon & Chad Parham & Jeremy Vain & Rob Adonis, Shadow Jackson & Slim J b Azreael & Shaun Tempers-DQ (thanks to Larry Goodman)

--West Coast Wrestling alliance on 6/14 in Concord,CA at the New Hope Church Gym

--East Coast Pro Wrestling from last night in North Sydney, NS: Titus b Sidewinder, Julien Young & Adam DeJesus b Jamie Hamilton & Sexton Phoenix, Lumberjack Johnson b Lincoln Steen, Danyah b Krysta Lynn Scott, Sidewinder won Battle Royal, Billy Gunn b Brody Steele, Mike Hughes b Al Snow (thanks to Sheldon MacLean)

--Tonight in Puebla has Atlantis & Rey Bucanero & Ultimo Guerrero vs. Perro Aguayo Jr. & El Terrible & El Hijo del Texano. Irapuato has Axel & Hector Garza & Mistico vs. Averno & Ephesto & Toscano. Nuevo Laredo has Chessman & Cibernetico & Pimpinela Escarlata vs. Electroshock & Espiritu & Head Hunter B (thanks to Kris Zellner) {plug}

Who had the best show?

 

Who won the night?