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A look at what could be one of the most significant stories involving pro wrestlers themselves, which is the lawsuit filed regarding the classification of wrestlers as independent contractors is looked at as one of the lead stories in today's issue of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter. The issue is available now on the website for premium members.

The jumbo-sized issue also looks at Brock Lesnar's second UFC fight, as well as early feedback on how the UFC 87 PPV did as well as TNA's Hard Justice.

We look at the UFC show, bonuses that you may know about and bonuses that have not been talked about, the future direction of Brock Lesnar in UFC, what happened with Lesnar the day of the fight, a realistic look at Lesnar vs. Herring and what is shows, as well as business notes on the show and match-by-match coverage.

We also have a feature on Mick Foley's possibly leaving WWE, where things seem to stand, a look back at Foley inking his current WWE contract and the last few years in the company.

We also have a look at some highlights of the career of Killer Kowalski.

We've got full coverage of TNA's Hard Justice, looking at business, booking, future direction, plus match-by-match coverage with star ratings.

We also have more on Ric Flair on the open market including Flair talking about his decision.

We've got more on SummerSlam, update on changes in the WWE Board of Directors, several WWE injury updates, huge talks that are taking place this week that have huge international ramifications, a look at the wrestlers cut by WWE and various reasons as to why. We also have a look at awards WWE is up for and what percentage of people watch Smackdown live vs. on tape.

We also look at a public challenge to one of the WWE's top stars to a shootfight in his home country, a California Supreme Court ruling that affects a major provision of the WWE contracts, and a funny story of what not to do when trying to get a job with WWE.

We also look at the best selling wrestling and MMA DVDs, a new WWE signing, developmental news as well as business notes from the past week and house show highlights.

We also have a look at Dana White's recent comments regarding WEC and UFC coexisting and changes that he will be making.

We've got a feature on the life of Hall of Famer Alfonso Dantes, one of the major Lucha Libre stars of the 70s. We look at his reputation in Mexico, what is most remembered about his feud with Satoru Sayama, his sons getting into wrestling, the stature of the NWA world light heavyweight title when Dantes held it, his biggest feuds, his tenure in California and what famous athlete he was named after.

We look at his title history, his father and his sons as wrestlers, as well as what is considered one of the most tasteless gimmicks in history that his brother did. We look at where the name Alfonso Dantes actually came from and some of his most famous matches.

We also have a look at two more Olympic medalists who went to pro wrestling that we didn't cover in last week's issue. This includes a look back at the early days of the Olympics and how matches were decided that will surprise almost everyone. We also look at the one of the longest wrestling matches that ever took place. We also have notes on the life of Pete Mehringer, an Olympic gold medalist who had a long tenure in pro wrestling, but didn't like it much.

We've got our usual weekly features including a look at the ratings of all the major TV shows, as well as segment-by-segment details of Raw and Impact, as well as final numbers for the two recent network specials. We also have results from the major league arena shows of the past week as well as the major TV show reviews.

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--A very interesting power play going on behind the scenes

--Major mask vs. mask match signed for next month

--Arena Mexico rundown

--Retirement match of 70s star

--Numerous former WWE wrestlers on upcoming shows in Mexico

--Huge problems backstage in a major promotion

--Latest to leave while business is hot

--Ratings war in Mexico update

--G-1 Climax updates as well as TNA stars headed to Japan

--New promotion debuts with Hall of Famers feud

--Grandson of one of wrestling's biggest legends garnering news in another sport

--Former WCW & WWE star of 90s battled last week for his life

--Gathering of the Juggalos

--More on Kurt Angle TV pilot

--TNA expected to set business records

--Background of Taylor Wilde

--Dana White talks Quinton Jackson

--Dana White talks Affliction

--Fedor Emelianenko's people want to open talks with UFC

--White talks Roger Huerta

--Differences now between White and Vince McMahon

--Major star White is looking at signing

--Update on UFC November PPV

--Update on St. Pierre vs. Penn and timing of the fight

--Who UFC is having trouble finding opponents for

--WEC ratings and what it says

--UFC star in movie with 90210 star

--New UFC matches

--Promoter out of jail

--K-1 strange show in Hawaii

--Update on next Dream show

--What world champion wrestler was contacted about facing Kid Yamamoto

--Update on Affliction numbers

--A look at the next Affliction show

--Upcoming Elite XC shows and matches

--Elite XC business numbers

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*January 19, 2004 (2003 Awards issue)

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*February 23, 2004 (History of Guerrero family with Eddy's win over Brock Lesnar)

*March 1, 2004 (History of WWF continues with the period that brought the company down in early 1992, the mistakes, the real stories and how the business changed)

*March 8, 2004 (History of Wrestlemania, its greatest matches and best and worst shows as voted both by wrestlers and non-wrestlers and Wrestlemania history books)

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*August 16, 2004 (History of the Olympians in pro wrestling)

*August 23, 2004 (2004 Hall of Fame issue and biggest issue of the year with huge profiles on Kazushi Sakuraba, Undertaker, Bob Backlund, Masahiro Chono, Ultimo Dragon, Kurt Angle and Tarzan Lopez

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-- For those wondering about the Championship Scramble, according to WWE.com the title can change hands several times during the match, but only the guy who walks out as champion after the 20-minute period will be considered the "officially recognized" World Champion. Not sure if that makes things more or less confusing.

-- Not much to report on Takeshi Morishima's Raw dark match last night. He is the current NOAH GHC Heavyweight champion and the company cleared him to work the show, and the whole thing was set up by Harley Race.

-- As noted on last night's members-only Wrestling Observer Radio, Primo Colon is Eddie Colon, Carlito's brother and the son of Carlos Colon.

-- Dana White talks MMA as an Olympic sport.

-- Spike TV officially announced the competitors for Ultimate Fighter Season VIII yesterday. Lightweights include Joe Aguilar, Fernando Bernstein, Junie Allen Browning, Rolando Delgado, Joseph Duarte, Charles Diaz, Efrain Escudero, Brandon Garner, David Kaplan, Brian McLaughlin, Wesley Murch, Shane Nelson, Phillipe Nover, Ido Pariente, John Polakowski, and George Roop. Yes, ROOP. For the light heavyweights we've got Ryan Bader, Antwain Britt, Jules Bruchez, Lance Evans, Karen Grigoryan, Jason Guida, Ryan Jimmo, Kyle Kingsbury, Tom Lawlor, Ryan Lopez, Vinicius Magalhaes, Eric Magee, Eliot Marshall, Sean O'Connell, Shane Primm and Krzysztof Soszynski. The show premieres on Wednesday, September 17 at 10:00pm ET/PT.

-- Soszynski was actually trained for pro-wrestling by Don Callis.

-- Spike TV also has set up a new online video game called MMA Training Ground which you can check out right now by clicking here.

-- William Regal's opponent last night was Jake Hager.

-- There was a funny moment from the Raw satellite feed where Lilian Garcia at 8:58 told the crowd that she'd just been alerted that they were going live in two minutes. Lawler then said something to the effect of, "She's just been alerted? She's been doing this for 14 years and we always go live at 9:00."

-- Jim Ross has a new blog up here with thoughts on SummerSlam, Matt Cappotelli, and more.

-- Ric Flair will be appearing at the PCW show at the Oak Lawn Pavilion in Oak Lawn, IL on November 22nd. Tickets for the show are $15, and they're selling $75 supertickets which include a GA ticket, a photo op with Flair, and one item signed. Additional items are $25. More info is up here

-- Results of our Hell in the Cell poll:

What was the best Hell in a Cell match?
Undertaker vs. Mankind 41.6%
Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels 33.2%
HHH vs. Mick Foley 9.1%
Undertaker vs. Edge 6.6%
Undertaker vs. Brock Lesnar 6.2%
HHH vs. Michaels 1.1%
HHH vs. Batista 0.9%
Undertaker vs. Randy Orton 0.8%
HHH vs. Chris Jericho 0.5%

-- Ultimo Guerrero did an interview this week saying he wanted to be involved in the Blue Panther/Villano V mask vs. mask match that headlines the CMLL 75th Anniversary show on September 19th. Villano dislocated his shoulder this past weekend, but should be OK for the match, which most figure he'll be losing.

-- World Championship Fighting (I would not have chosen that name, but that's just me having suffered through the death of WCW) runs Septembr 19th at the Aleppo Shriners Auditorium in Wilmington, MA with Sam "The Thief" Hoger of Ultimate Fighter fame vs. Braden Bice in the main event.

-- Former WWE referee Wes Adams, who was released last week, is now taking independent bookings as a wrestler. He'll be working the TLCW show on Saturday night in Ripley, TN along with former OVW stars Flash Flanagan and Derrick King, Alan Steele, Dustin Starr, Stan Lee, Greg Anthony and Kurt King. Show starts at 8:00 PM.

-- Greg Valentine is going on tour. He'll be in Lewisburg, TN at the ASW Arena at 2224 Mooresville Highway on September 4th, Tullahoma, TN at 106 Southside DR on September 5th, and Pulaski, TN on September 6th at 634 East College Street.

-- Pro Wrestling Phoenix on August 16th in Council Bluffs, IA saw Tyler Cook d. Zac James in a Street Fight, Sean Cruz d. Joey Daniels, Ryan Cruz d. Darrien Sanders, Arik Cannon d. Mark Sterling, Stephen Saint d. Chris Havius in a First Blood Match, Jeremy Wyatt d. Arya Daivari, Hype Gotti & Tony Cortez d. Jaysin Strife & Vic Victory, Abu Colossus d. Brett Young. Next show is Sept. 20th at the National Guard Armory in Council Bluffs, IA featuring Chris Havius vs. Stephen Saint - Fans Bring the Weapons.

-- Kyda Pro Wrestling at the Prince William County Fair on August 15: Sanchezz d. Uriah Condit with the STO; Kacee Carlisle d. Rebecca Payne with a roll up using the ropes for leverage; Bazooka Joe won a Royal Rumble Match to gain a KYDA Pro Title Match later that night against Joseph Brooks. Also in the match were Jimmy Dream, Gesus Smiles, Bobby Shields, Kevin Daniels, Kamikaze Kid, Trayvon Burr, Go Ninja Go, Gordon Braswell, Jeff Early, Oliver Bondo, Black Ice, BodySnatcha, and Jane; Jeff Early and Kamikaze Kid d. Standards and Practices when Jeff Early pinned Gordon Braswell with a Victory Roll; Bobby Shields d. Hyjinx with a low blow; Go Ninja Go d. Jane with a Small Package; Joseph Brooks and Bazooka Joe fought to a double countout for the KYDA Pro Title; A Street Fight with Mark Bravura vs. Sanchezz ended in a no-contest after Sanchezz splashed Bravura off the top of a 12 foot ladder through a table

-- Ground Xero Wrestling at the Hopewell Community Center on August 16: Jeff Early and Eddie Diamond were declared co-cruiserweight champions after a double pin; Playboy Pete d. Mr. Stone; Standards and Practices d. The Gift and The Curse to become the first GXW Tag Team Champions; Mark Bravura d. Malicious by disqualification; Phil Brown d. Pharoah to retain the GWX Heavyweight Title

-- Kyda Pro Wrestling in Dale City, VA on August 17: The D-Line d. The Happy Tour when BodySnatcha gave Gesus Smiles the Last Ride; Kacee Carlisle d. Rebecca Payne Sanchezz d. Bobby Shields with the STO; Mark Bravura d. Axl Rotten with a roll up with the tights; Go Ninja Go won a four way pinning Xander maddoX, Hyjinx and Trayvon Burr were the other two men in the match; Bazooka Joe d. Prince Malik; Kip James d. Joseph Brooks to win the KYDA Pro Heavyweight Championship

-- APCW runs Saturday August 23rd at American Legion Post 311 in Seekonk, MA. For directions and more info, call 508-226-9822.

-- Sandman, Mikey Whipwreck and Gary Wolf among others will be appearing on August 23rd at Clementon Park in -- well, the press release didn't say, but apparently you can get directions here. {plug}

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