

Excellent rant in the update today. Brilliant stuff, you guys have
outdone yourself this weekend with the audio shows and updates.
Mike DeGeorge
Hands down without question Brock Lesnar owned not just Mandalay Bay
but each and every sold out man cave, living room, sports bar and wing
joint that televised UFC 100. Channeling a time in professional
wrestling where things weren't so homogenized, Lesnar had the audience
in the palms of his hand - at times loving to hate him and then hating
to love him. Back and forth, back and forth. Combat wonderment.
How rich was it to see a conflicted crowd struggle to find their
bearings as a bully stuffed the hometown kid, then violently shut him
down only to pour a little salt into that wound with a post fight
"assessment" of the bout proceeded by shining that grin, his UFC
Championship and a babe around his arm as he exited Vegas? Poetic.
Exciting. Fresh.
Yes, he was a bully and devoid of humility in his domination.
But that's not necessarily a bad thing.
Sure, he didn't help icy Budweiser-UFC relations, but it won't kill
the deal.
But the UFC brand and Mixed Martial Arts as a sport aren't scarred.
Naturally, the MMA blogosphere is abuzz and the message boards have
hit the double digits with pages and pages on hyper analysis and
discussion of the UFC Heavyweight Champion. MMA net reporters are
furiously punching up op-eds over the notion - this fantasy - that MMA
needs to be a sterile politically correct enterprise to succeed and be
accepted by Corporate America (it doesn't - just ask ESPN, AOL and
every medium from papers to the web to cable TV that gave Saturday
night coverage). The MMA community is talking. That much is for sure.
I say: Great!
Why? Because not only is the MMA community talking about UFC's World
Champion but the average guy who doesn't know the difference between
an MMA fighter, an Ultimate Fighter or a bull fighter is talking.
Today at the sold out water cooler, people who don't know there is a
MMA world outside of the 3 letters UFC will be talking and their
friends who have even less of a clue about UFC will want to know more
about this "outrageous" World Champ - and the UFC as a whole.
Questions like: "who does Brock fight next?" "When is UFC coming to
NYC?" And - "When's the next PPV?!" will be asked.
Things were almost getting TOO sterile and predictable in the new
sponsor regulated, EA Game blackballing era of UFC. Brock is just
what the doctor called for. He has the tools from his WWE tenure to
project a larger than life persona and knows how to play the role -
but more importantly has the balls to go there. Combine that with his
expanding skill set, ease with ground control and newfound commitment
to stay to strategy, this guy has got the world in his hands right now.
People have a heightened interest and are talking and they are talking
with passion not seen in a looong time. And if you are UFC or a fan
of MMA, that's a good thing.
Court Bauer
One other thought: Lesnar still doesn’t seem to have any submission skills. His strategy consists of him mauling his opponent until the ref stops it, which is fine but I think will make his matches go longer than they have to. My guess is that is going to come back and bite him in the future when he fights a submission specialist.
Having said that, he’s a blast to watch and a match with Fedor might break all-time PPV records.
Thumbs up.
Best fight: Lesnar-Mir. While technically it wasn’t the most interesting fight, the hype – and the prospect that Mir could grab an ankle or wrist and get Lesnar to submit --- made it the most exciting.
Worst fight: All the fights on the PPV were good.
Thoughts: I absolutely loved Lesnar’s antics before and after the fight. GSP may be the best fighter in the world but Lesnar was the only one with the rock star vibe.
Also, I listened to Bill Simmons podcast where Dave said at some point, there will probably be a fatality in a televised match. For a second, I though that prediction came true on Saturday after Henderson KO’d Bisping and then belted him again. I really did think he was dead the way he was laying there. Scary.
Brett Davey
Hi Dave,
I'd give UFC 100 a thumbs up, despite the Japanese broadcast (WOWOW) airing
only four matches in their entirety.
Best match - Lesnar vs. Mir, primarily for Lesnar's wildly entertaining
post-fight interview and the fact he was able to control and damage Mir in
the first round using nothing more than a modified half-nelson. Sick!
Worst match- None
Bisping/Henderson wasn't going anywhere, but the highlight reel KO and
follow-up bombs-away forearm smash more than made up for the lack of
fireworks.
After countless times of Dana professing how he does nothing but eat, drink,
sleep, and live MMA, in the end, he truly doesn't get it. The business is
built around marketable stars and characters and Lesnar's post-fight tirade
was one of the best MMA heel interviews in recent memory. Dana was turned
off by this? This is stunning. Why did Dana sign Brock in the first place?
It wasn't simply because he was a Division I NCAA champion wrestler. It was
because Brock Lesnar was a big-name pro wrestler who exuded big-time pro
wrestling attitude. And now he wants to squelch that? Other than Brock's
comment about mounting his wife, his antics weren't as bad as the press is
making them out to be.
Sorry, but if Dana is that paranoid over one of his fighters refusing to bow
in obsequious servitude to a sponsor, then the UFC business model isn't as
secure as it seems. Good for Brock; Bud is a lousy tasting beer anyway.
By the way, did you happen to see who was on the cover of the special UFC
100 commemorative magazine? Royce Gracie? No. Randy Couture? Try again.
Chuck Liddell? No sir. None other than Dana White, and Dana alone, graces
the cover. I've always supported Dana until now, but I think it's becoming
nearly impossible to deny that Dana craves to be the true star of the show.
Finally, Henderson wasn't in the wrong with his follow-up flying forearm
smash on a prone Bisping. Until the ref motions to stop the fight, a fighter
should continuing pursuing his opponent and constantly be in "finish" mode.
Regards,
George Guida
.hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { font-size: 10pt; font-family:Verdana } Hey Dave and Bryan,
The show went over well with the group of 4 I had over. This is the first time I've gotten anybody to come over and help pay for a show, so the interest was there. 3 of them weren't regular watchers but have seen a show here or there at bars and watch Ultimate Fighter casually. They were also wrestling fans and had an interest in Brock already. I've been regularly watching since UFC 70something but my first UFC was 3 and have probably watched 2 dozen or so shows up until I got into it regularly (money helps).
The fourth was my dad. We'd both been busy the past few months and hadn't seen each other for awhile. Earlier in the day he called and I invited him over thinking he wouldnt be interested. As far as I know in my 34 years of living, my dad has never watched any sports let alone wrestling, boxing, or mma. But he showed up to my surprise. He didn't even know what we were about to watch. Everyone showed up at 9 so we could watch the countdown special from earlier. After it was done my dad was all hyped up about 'that Brock guy' but thought that the preshow was what we got together to watch. He asked 'so what day is the fight?' and we all laughed and told him that's what was about to start. Then he got giddy. It was kind of funny. Anyways, he loved the show and thought Brock was the baddest bastard on the planet and thought his post fight interview was hilarious. He pretty much hasn't stopped talking about it all day so clearly nobody told my dad that Brock was bad for business. He's already planned to be there for UFC 101 and doesn't have a clue who anybody is.
My thought on Belcher/Akiyama was that Belcher won, but everyone else thought Akiyama did. I had 10-9 for Akiyama in the first, and the rest for Belcher. I didn't think Akiyama did much with the 2 takedowns he got and that Belcher connected more standing with his striking and jabs to take those last 2 rounds. But I did think it was close enough that I didn't feel it was a robbery or anything. The judges 30-27 was pretty ridiculous though.
It seems like I'm not the only one that thinks Ziggler is friggin awesome. WWE seems to be strapping the proverbial rocket to his ass at the moment. I guess we'll see how long that lasts. But do they really think casual fans are going to take him seriously as a main eventer with that stupid name? They're neutering these guys before they even have their first match with dumb characters and stupid names. Sometimes I feel like they are purposely trying to sink the company.
And while I'm yacking... maybe this is a question for Lance Storm or Buddy... but do the guys in the back/real life call each other by their real names or by their stage names? I'm assuming you don't call the Undertaker by that name cause that would be wierd. But in the case of Dolph for example, would you call him Dolph or Nick (or whatever his real name is)? Is it just how personal a relationship you have with them? Just seems like it would be confusing sometimes.
So much for a quick comment.
Take care,
Mike Parisien
I thought Lesnar was unreal, although downing Bud Light clearly was big picture unwise. My non-wrestling type friends only had a problem with the “go home and lay on my wife” part of Lesnar’s promo. They saw that part and ONLY that part as white trash. One guy (lawyer) said that white trash stuff can scare away sponsors. When he said that I thought of Flair talking about bleeding virgins at MSG and Vince going nuts on him because of sponsors were there. Anyways, food for thought. I thought it was just funny, but I think there is a point there when it comes to that part of it. Otherwise everyone thought it was a great show, some wondered about GSP not being spectacular, but that was moreso just because they have heard all the Canadian hype on him and they just assume he is some kind of KO freak, not realising that those takedowns one after the other were damn spectacular as far as the science of the sport.
WWE Vintage on THE SCORE had outstanding matches on Saturday. Bret vs Waltman and Pillman-Liger.
Name withheld
Dave,
I felt a lot more strongly about Lesnar's antics than you did. I don't
think there was anything inherently wrong with them and they weren't
any worse than a lot of what you see in the NFL or NBA, but this is a
sport that still isn't there with a lot of the editors and producers I
talk to. Making the sport look like slightly more respectably pro
wrestling doesn't, fairly or not, help, especially in their biggest
ever show. It might help his draw, but I think it was bad in the big
picture. (And this actually has nothing to do with his WWE
background—I'd say the same thing if Rampage had cut the same promo in
the same spot.)
That said, you're dead right about Henderson. I was just thinking that
UFC was really fucking lucky that so many people who saw what he did
probably had no idea what they were watching, or that the guy doing it
was someone who carries the kind of respect in the sport that
Henderson does. That was disgraceful.
If you want to run this on the site or what have you, please keep my
name off. And as always keep up the terrific work.
Name withheld
.hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { font-size: 10pt; font-family:Verdana } Thumbs way up.
Best fight: Brock vs Frank
Worst Fight: Fitch vs Thiago
Best KO: Dirty Dan, obviously
Best sub: sadly....
Off to a solid start with the Akiyama and Belcher fight, plenty of action, at least early on, and I am fully agreeing with the decision rendered. Not sure what Rogan was going on about on commentary.
Surprising to jump right into Dan and Bisping, and this fight was alright, nothing too spectacular until the brutal finish. I was actually slightly disappointed to see Dan murderize Bisping with the second shot when he was already comatose on the mat. I'm not one of those goofy sportsmanship sticklers that was embarassing themselves at the press conference or on the message boards, but Dan's appeal to me was that he was a gentleman, as exhibited in his fight back in Pride where he KOed Renzo Gracie, and checked to see if he was alright before hitting him again. Dan's still a personal favourite of mine though, and I suppose that's what happens when you make fights personal.
The GSP vs Thiago Alves fight might have been boring if taken out of context, as it was bordering on Lay 'n Pray (not quite though, GSP was certainly trying to hurt him). When you take into consideration this was "GSP's toughest challenge to date", a massive, deadly striker with impeccable takedown defence, the guy it would seem who had the best chance of dethroning the champ, then this was actually a marvel to behold, as it became truly apparent how special a fighter GSP truly is, the most dominant and perfect fighter in the world. Beyond a shadow of a doubt the P4P king of the world.
Brock vs Mir was everything I was hoping for and then some. Brock looked terrifying out there, and Mir looked like he had just been run over by a bus. The post-fight promo was awesome, and stupid or not, the Coors Lite rant was funny, and popped the entire room I was watching in. And that shot of him screaming into the camera, saliva flying, will amount to millions of dollars down the road.
Fitch and Thiago ended the show on a bit of downer, but even then it wasn't a horrendous fight. I'd rather the time be used to show us Jonny Bones, but we can't win 'em all, can we?
Not sure how some of the Sherdog goofs could possibly see this as "a card looking lacklustre going in", as I saw it as one of the most stacked shows ever, and it delivered.
Curtis Hughes
Judging by our mail, a lot of people who were on the fence about MMA bought into the hype and watched UFC 100 with friends. Many were turned off by the blood, and by Lesnar’s antics after the match. I can see that being a pro wrestling fan actually helps you like the sport, since you see Lesnar as just being a classic heel. We got about 100 letters, about 90% saying the sport should be banned and/or Lesnar should be reprimanded. People seem to really respond to it on an emotional level, and any attempt to explain rules and why it’s safer than boxing (and a few other sports) falls on deaf ears. As one of my friends said “Anything where you can hit a man when he’s down (like Lesnar vs. Mir) isn’t a sport.
Meanwhile, on our website, the coverage blew everything else away as far as page views go. It’s up there with the same numbers our Lakers coverage gets, which is unheard of.
I forgot to add: The same people who are ripping Lesnar now will be keeping an eye on the sport just to see him get beat, so, mission accomplished Brock!
Houston Mitchell
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