SUN. UPDATE: Slammiverary notes, Vince McMahon, Last night's WWE show, James Storm, TNA Hall of Fame, TNA's best angle

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        We're also looking for reports on last night's WWE Smackdown show in Salisbury, MD and today's show in Binghamton, NY.

        Tonight's Slammiversary lineup
*Bobby Roode vs. Sting for the TNA title - They could go either way on this only because of the feeling nobody really expects Sting to win.  But if he does win, it's a short-term because the money is still in James Storm chasing and winning the title later this year, probably at Bound for Glory.  Roode was been strong of late so this should be a good match, but probably not a super match.
*Christopher Daniels & Kazarian vs. A.J. Styles & Kurt Angle for the tag title - Could be the strongest match on the show.  I don't see it as time to change the tag titles, but given that the Styles storyline with Daniels and Kazarian probably has a long way to go, you can make any finish work since it's probably not the last time we see this match.
*Jeff Hardy vs. RVD vs. Mr. Anderson with the winner meeting the Roode vs. Sting winner on Thursday's Impact - RVD just had a shot and lost.  Hardy is the biggest star of the three.  Nobody wants to see Roode vs. Anderson, nothing against it, but it's nothing anyone wants to see. 
*Joseph Park vs. Bully Ray - The main thing here isn't the match but how they handle Abyss and Joseph Park
*Gail Kim vs. Miss Tessmacher for the Knockouts title - The last time they met on PPV, they had a very nice match, well above most women's matches on PPV from either company.  Tessmacher is a good athlete who is green, but Kim is experienced and the two have worked well together a number of times.  Given Tessmacher lost, I could sense it time for a title change, but it still feels to me like Velvet Sky is the most over and is the one who eventually gets it.
*Austin Aries vs. Samoa Joe - These two have the chance to tear the house down because Aries has good matches with everyone, and they've had great matches in the past.  Just a question of time and Joe's motivation.  Storyline is cold, but the match will probably go on early.
*Devon & Garett Bischoff vs. Robbie E & Robbie T - Hopefully doesn't go too long.  Devon has done well in short explosive matches.  E is fine in his role.   Bischoff and T need to be protected.
*Crimson vs. ? - No comment.  It's not Christian as the mystery guy. 
*Kid Kash vs. Hernandez - A cold match with no build.  Neither have even been on TV in a long time.  Hernandez should win, and hopefully there is a storyline reason that will come out why it's on the show.
        There seems to be more interest in this show.  Not sure if that's a big picture thing or just from our readership.  On paper, it's really not a lot better than other TNA shows for match quality with the tag title match looking strong.  The Park angle has been very good but this match is all how the angle goes and not really about the match, and it ends up back with Abyss vs. Ray.

        Raw will be live with a three-hour special from Hartford, CT, with Vince McMahon doing a job evaluation for John Laurinaitis opening the show at 8 p.m.  Advertised locally is John Cena vs. Big Show & John Laurinaitis and C.M. Punk vs. Daniel Bryan for the title.  One of those, if not both, will be dark matches although not sure why you would even want dark matches after a three-hour show.  
        Smackdown and NXT will be taped on Tuesday in Manchester, NH.  The major stars being advertised locally are John Cena (likely a dark match) and HHH (likely a non-televised cameo appearance).
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--CMLL's biggest stip match in a long time
--New Japan star challenges for CMLL title
--Official TripleMania announcement of date and place
--Probable TripleMania main event
--Who was on the semifinal of the first ever AAA show 20 years ago and was in the main event in the return to that arena in Veracruz over the weekend
--Major international star shows up as a surprise for AAA
--Three former WWE stars headline in Mexico
--Major injury screws up major plans for Pro Wrestling NOAH
--NOAH holds matches against both All Japan and New Japan
--Longtime New Japan star talks about an injury and potential return
--Standings of the Best of the Super Junior tournament and all of the matches over the past week
--Former WWE star challenges for IGF title against former K-1 star
--Update on Genichiro Tenryu
--Return of the famous Great Kabuki
--The grandson of arguably the most influential wrestler of the 20th century talking about getting into pro wrestling
--One of wrestling's all-time greatest winning records hurt with loss this past week
--Update on Shane Douglas' Extreme Reunion group with a new name and new focus
--Major indie show headlined by WWE star against Luke Robinson
--Updated news on TNA's lawsuit against WWE, what the suit it about
--Lots of notes regarding TNA's live TV shoot and why everyone was so happy it went smoothly
--Plans going forward for live TNA shoots
--Dixie Carter talks about the optimum number of PPV shows per year
--Talk about the TNA Hall of Fame
--Update on Chris Sabin in TNA
--What TNA badly needs that has snuck up on them
--Who is behind TNA's recent successful angles
--Updates on Slammiversary
--Notes on the TNA big surprise
--Behind the Gut check segments and what is and isn't real about them
--Notes on the Rich Franklin vs. Wanderlei Silva fight
--Tons of new UFC fights announced and changed
--Notes on the next UFC Countdown show
--A look at the career of Kenny Florian
--Surprise of B.J. Penn returning
--More on the Jon Jones situation
--Behind all the talks when Thiago Silva got hurt over who to face Shogun next
--Two MMA documentaries just released covering major UFC stars
--A look at where Cyborg vs. Rousey stands
--Rousey's next title defense
--Lots of UFC cuts
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Sunday's news update
--Bryan and I will be back tonight for Observer radio.  We'll cover tonight's TNA show as well as preview Raw, discuss the UFC problems and they are many right now, as well as take your e-mail questions to This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
--I skipped the Pacquiao fight last night so have no comments on it.  I did follow a friends comments for a few early rounds and actually went out with the family, figured it was a route for Pacquiao, and didn't even watch any TV until I woke up and was flooded with e-mails.  Suffice to say everyone I've heard from, but one person who did score it for Bradley, thought it was pretty one-sided.  I don't buy the fixed judging and Pacquiao leaving Arum so Arum screwed him stories.  I've seen from too close a perspective on the UFC side how this works, and been involved in the process.  It's bad judging.  I can't even blame the system for this fight or any fights this weekend, because there were bad judging cards on Friday at the UFC show that were simply inexplicable.  But these things are horrible for the sport, even if it does necessitate an immediate rematch.
--Vince McMahon was trending on Twitter after the fight, I guess some people brought up the judging decision made it fixed like pro wrestling and that's where his name came in.  A lot of wrestlers and MMA fighters watched last night and buried the judging.  C.M. Punk made fun of Pacquiao always thanking God and getting screwed.  There was talk today in WWE about bringing up Vince trending on Twitter after the fight on Raw.  Um, that's not exactly something to brag about considering his name came up as someone who fixes fights (which I guess he does in the strictest of senses) and screws fans (which for the most part I wouldn't say he does).  
--Last night in Salisbury, MD, with Alberto Del Rio out due to a concussion, they had Kane beat Great Khali to earn the shot at Sheamus in the cage match main event.  Of course Sheamus retained.  They'll likely do the same thing in Binghamton today.  If Del Rio can't be cleared by next weekend, they will do something on  Raw Monday to create a new opponent for Sheamus.
--You know what blows my mind.  Since the thing we mentioned in yesterday's update about the West Coast getting the live feed of the UFC show on FX Friday night, and that if you tuned in when it was listed in the TV guide, or you DVR'd the show, you would get the movie "Armageddon" and have missed the show, we did get a number of people confirming that it happened to them.  But really not many.  I saw a thread on a leading MMA board and it was mentioned but like one or two people complained.  We did get an expected level response to the show (not big, but bigger than last week's show).  So does that mean so many who watch on the West Coast have a dish, or that nobody cared all that much, I'm not sure.  I wouldn't be happy if I was UFC, because at the very least you'd want to know this info and be able to promote it's going live on the West Coast.
--There were about 5,000 tickets out for tonight's Slammiversary show, which is well above any TNA show outside of the U.K. in quite some time.  As best we can tell, if there has been papering, it's not heavy.  Most parts of the building only have scattered seats available and there are upper sections where you can get a strip of eats together, but the floor and lower tier are sold.  The place is set up for about 6,000.
--A story on John Layfield looking at climbing the seven summits, which is the highest peak on every continent, and includes climbing Mount Everest, for charity is at
--James Storm tweeted that he has made his decision.  Must be the decision is that he's going to come back to TNA.  Anyone willing to bet otherwise.
--Lots of talk on the TNA Hall of Fame induction.  Really, the person it should be is Bob Carter because without him, this would have been dead 9 1/2 years ago.  And they are in Arlington, and Carter is based in the Dallas area.  Hulk Hogan would be a good pick because having Hogan the first pick in a Hall of Fame at least is the way to start it out.  A guy like Lou Thesz, or Frank Gotch, should be maybe the first pick if you are starting a legit (as not in real sport, but real based on being early pioneers and legends) wrestling Hall of Fame, but as a TV show version, he's from another era and his name means nothing.  Sting would be good since he's actually not in any major Hall of Fame and has been with the company a long time.  Jeff Jarrett would be good as the founder of the company.  I can almost buy A.J. Styles based on the current storyline, but then it becomes a "what's good for this week's storyline Hall of Fame" and will be treated like that.    
--For whatever this is worth, Karen Jarrett on Twitter said Jeff is not in Texas and that neither of them will be at the PPV.  Keep in mind that anyone in and around TNA on Twitter talking about the product or people you have to assume is working storyline. 
--In the Q&A put up yesterday, regarding the Banach brothers and pro wrestling, the Banachs were talked with by Verne Gagne after each brother won gold in the 1984 Olympics.  Seven years ago, when Ed Banach was named one of the 15 greatest college wrestlers of all-time (a list that included Kurt Angle and Danny Hodge), he was asked about it.  "I had no desire to do that," he said.  But, he did not insult pro wrestling.  He said he liked watching Kurt Angle.  "What's amazing about WWE wrestling is that they go on for so much longer than amateur matches.  The pounding they take from throws is incredible.   Yeah, they know who is going to win, but they really are great athletes."  (thanks to Kevin Witt)
Who do you think will win this fight?
Joseph Benavidez 70.4%
Demetrious Johnson 29.6%
What do you think is the main reason UFC's show on Friday night didn't draw well live?
UFC has cooled off 45.3%
Johnson vs. McCall wasn't a money main event 37.1%
South Florida is hard to draw in 11.9%
Ticket prices too high 4.3%
No local fighters 1.4%
What is TNA's best angle?
Joseph Park-Bully Ray 55.4%
Dixie Carter/A.J. Styles/Christopher Daniels 23.6%
James Storm's return to face Bobby Roode 12.1%
Gut check 5.2%
Sting returning to face Bobby Rooode 3.6%
Who is the best of these two?
Rory Mac Donald 73.2%
Erick Silva 26.8%
Poll on Smackdown
Excellent 6.5%
Good 38.3%
Average 30.8%
Fair 9.3%
Poor 15.0%
        46.0% of those responding didn't see the show.   
--During last night's Arizona Cardinals game, local announcer Mark Grace was talking about an upcoming Lucha Libre mask night game and brought up Mil Mascaras, and talked about him being a legendary wrestler and such.  The other announcer did not know who he was. (thanks to Andy MacConney) 
--NWA Alternative Pro Wrestling from Friday night in Royston, GA before 135 fans:  Seth Delay b Yasir Akbar, Brandon Parker b Shadow Jackson, James Boulevard b Skirra Corvus, Dany Only & Strykyn b  Cail Cannon & Shaen Hexxon, Dustin Knight b Anthony Henry, Anthony Henry won a Rumble match that went 53 minutes.  Next show is 7/27 featuring Ricky Morton.  (thanks to Larry Goodman)
--Sugar Dunkerton returned on the above show.  He had broken his right forearm two months ago and had a plate and seven screws put in.  He was told it would take six months to heal. 
--A review of the documentary:  "GLOW:  The Story of the Gorgeous Women of Wrestling" that is doing the festival rounds is up at
--Mid Missouri Wrestling from last night in St. Louis:  Dave Osborne b Draco Verdadero, Ace Hawkins b Jimmy D, Gary Jackson NC Brandon Espinosa, Ricky Cruz b Max Archer, Dave Vaughn b Sean Vincent, LaMarcus Clinton & Chase King b The Lumberjacks, Big Texan b Super Castaldi I (thanks to Patrick Brandmeyer) 
--Westside Xtreme Wrestling in Germany will be doing its first tryout on 8/12 before Fan Appreciation night in Oberhausen.  The tryout is to find young talent in Europe and coaches will be Tommy End, Emily Sitoci and Big Van Walter.  At the tryout, you'll be asked to do a short match with a wrestler on the roster.  A good performance will not only get you on the show that night, but can get you a regular position with the company.  You need to send name, age, date of birth, current residence, height, weight, who trained you, experience level, a face photo and full body shot to This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
--We had the wrong link to a Vince Russo shoot trailer yesterday and the link is
--Thursday's TV tapings for the NXT show at Full Sail University are once again free and open only to students of the college.  We are looking for reports on those tapings.
--New Jack hates Abdullah the Butcher at  
--CZW from last night in Hamilton, OH:  Sami Callihan b Adam Cole, Dustin Rayz b Aaron McCormick, Sylar Cross & Master Jae won over  Jesse Emerson & Chris Hall, Bobby Beverly & Eric Ryan and AW2, Naveah b Kimber Lee, Dave Crist b Greg Excellent, Matt Tremont over Danny Havoc and Ron Mathis in fans bring the weapons, Drake Younger b  Drew Gulak, AR Fox b Alex Colon, D.J. Hyde b Jake Crist in a falls count anywhere no DQ match.  Next show will be 7/14 with Drake Younger vs. Sami Callihan in a 60 minute falls count anywhere Iron Man Match (thanks to Adam Sanders)  

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