WED. UPDATE: New show debuts tonight, More on Jaggers death, WWE edits, Ratings, New WSOF main events, Jeff Hardy talks Matt Hardy and TNA future, UFC cut



By Dave Meltzer
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        WWE Main Event debuts tonight on Ion.  Michael Cole and The Miz will be doing the commentary:
Non-title:  C.M. Punk vs. Sheamus
Tag team tournament:  Tyson Kidd & Justin Gabriel vs. Zack Ryder & Santino Marella
 
        Both WWE and UFC set record low ratings this past week for their flagship television shows.  In the new issue of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, we look at what led to the low Raw numbers as well as what was the star segment of the show, how when people usually turn off Raw, they skyrocketed and what segments lost audience.  We also look at the plight of Ultimate Fighter, as well as history on Raw battling football as the season goes on.
 
        The issue will be up later today on the web site.  A new back issue from 1995 is currently on the site.
 
        We also have a look at Brock Lesnar's financial value to WWE so far, and if he's worth his massive pay.  We look at how Extreme Rules and SummerSlam did, including some very strange results that are hard to explain.  We also look at why Lesnar is likely to be offered a new contract by WWE when this one expires. 
 
        We also look at the former WWE star and Hall of Famer who had been in secret negotiations and why they fell through at present.
 
        We also have a look at the latest ESPN poll on the popularity of WWE, UFC and Boxing across every age group.  The poll is interesting because the general public perception of who is actually most interested in all three genres, and even television ratings, tell a very different story.  We also look at how boxing and wrestling's popularity have changed over the past decade and why one of the three has the best chance of increasing for reasons few have really picked up on.
 
        The poll shows a lot about where WWE may be making mistakes with their approach.  It also has Lorenzo Fertitta talking about how his sport has decreased in popularity in recent years and his reaction to it.
 
        We also look at New Japan opening up in the iPPV business on an international basis this week.  We look at how the Japanese marketplace makes iPPV more viable than the U.S. marketplace.  We also look at attempts over the years to market Japanese pro wrestling in the U.S.  We also look at the first card, with notes on all the participants and every match.
 
        We also have a full rundown of the UFC show in Nottingham, England, with background on the show, all the financial numbers, injury notes, judging and match-by-match coverage.
 
        We also have a story on the departure of Kelly from WWE, talking about the background of how it all went down, how she got started in pro wrestling to begin with, why so many people have been leaving WWE, and what is next for her.
 
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        We also update Hell in a Cell, update Jerry Lawler and John Cena.  We also look at a former star looking at returning, the tag team tournament, what department in WWE is undergoing major changes, notes on house shows, an update on Edge and his neck surgery, Randy Orton's schedule for the next few weeks, WWE stars talk about their backgrounds, notes on another tryout camp, C.M. Punk's schedule this pat week, WWE's relationship with Full Sail University in Florida, Michael Cole's new role, update on Steve Austin, as well as business notes from WWE over the past week and details of all the weekend house shows.
 
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--Update on the middleweight division
 
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--Lots of new fights
 
--How a UFC announcement has great impact going forward on the next few WrestleManias
 
--Shane Carwin talks his knee injury and his fight with Roy Nelson
 
--What state Dana White said he's avoiding
 
--Lots of new UFC fights
 
--Notes from Bellator's debut
 
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Wednesday's news update
 
--We'll also be updating the latest news including ratings and notes from the new issue of the Observer tonight on Wrestling Observer radio and you can always send questions to the show to This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
 
--The death of 70s and 80s star Bobby Jaggers was due to the effects of Agent Orange that he first picked up in the early 70s while serving in Vietnam.  Jaggers passed away in Baton Rouge where he was on site working for FEMA.
 
--Ion is heavily advertising the debut of WWE Main Event tonight on ESPN in the New York market.  The ads are built around John Cena, who is not on tonight's show.
 
--Once again, tons of stuff from Raw was edited off the Hulu plus version.  Among the things not on the version were the Big Show/Sheamus debate, Ryback vs. Tensai, Eve Torres vs. Beth Phoenix, Santino Marella vs. Heath Slater, Antonio Cesaro vs. Brodus Clay and parts of the Rey Mysterio & Sin Cara vs. Primo & Epico match.
 
--Weigh-ins for Dave Bautista's MMA debut will be on Friday at the Marriott Downtown Hotel in Providence, RI at 1:30 p.m.
 
--For the past week, ESPN was No. 1 in prime time on cable with an average of 3.03 million viewers to 2.33 million for USA.  Syfy was No. 9 at 1.27 million.  FX was No. 15 with 1.10 million  Spike didn't crack the top 25.  Even though last week's Raw did its lowest audience in years, the three hours were still No. 6, No. 9 and No. 10 for the week in the ratings.  The second and first hour were No. 7 and No. 9 in 18-49.
 
--For what this is worth, John Layfield on twitter has said he has not been told he is announcing on Raw on Monday.  On this past week's show, it was mentioned that JBL would return.  That's not as strange as you think.  The announcers are often the last to be called in regard to assignments, especially now when the regular Raw host is gone. 

--Anthony Johnson faces D.J. Linderman and Miguel Torres faces Marlon Moraes is two of the main fights on the 11/3 World Series of Fighting show from Planet Hollywood in Las Vegas.  The show will air live on NBC Sports, head-to-head with the next Strikeforce event on Showtime.
 
--UFC has started advertising in the Vancouver market for the 12/8 show in Seattle headlined by Benson Henderson vs. Nate Diaz for the lightweight title.
 
--There is a very good story on Jeff Hardy talking about Bound for Glory, kicking his drug habit, going through Matt Hardy's problems and more at  When asked about possibly returning to WWE next year when his TNA deal expires, he did the never say never answer.
 
Who was the star of Raw?
C.M. Punk 41.0%
Jim Ross 16.8%
Ryback 14.3%
Daniel Bryan 14.1%
A.J. 4.8%
Ricardo Rodriguez 4.4%
Paul Heyman 3.5a%
Kane 1.2%
 
Are you going to watch WWE Main Event?
No, I'm a WWE fan but I watch enough for one week as it is 41.6%
Yes 28.1%
Don't get Ion but would watch it if I did 16.9%
Not a WWE fan, so no 13.4%
 
What was the best match on Raw?
Sheamus vs. Damien Sandow 56.2%
Kane & Daniel Bryan vs. Dolph Ziggler & C.M Punk 23.3%
Rey Mysterio & Sin Cara vs. Primo & Epico 18.4%
Alberto Del Rio vs. Kofi Kingston 2.1%
 
What did you think of Monday's Raw?
Excellent 5.9%
Good 22.4%
Average 27.6%
Fair 14.9%
Poor 29.2%
        20.5% of those responding didn't see the show
 
--John McCain campaigning for Linda McMahon at http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/McCain-Campaigns-in-CT-for-McMahon-172130451.html (thanks to Keith Lagasse)
 
--UFC has cut Michihiro Omigawa to go along with the news yesterday of Charlie Brenneman being cut.
   
--A story on Ronaldo Melo of Coral Springs, FL, a third degree black belt who has fought MMA in Brazil, being arrested for beating up his wife on and off for eight ours is at http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/crime/fl-coral-springs-domestic-strangulation-20121002.0.21111962.story  The police report said Melo began assaulting wife Vivian Heiderich at 9 p.m. on 9/28 when he came home and saw that his wife wasn't there.  When she got home, they fought over an e-mail message in his account and money issues.  Melo allegedly punched his wife and tried to choke her, threatened to kill her, threw picture frames at her, knocked her down, kicked her in the ribs and punched her in the stomach.  He allegedly threatened to hit her over the head with an iron and told her he wanted to shoot her in the back when she walked away.  She was locked in the bedroom and he continued to attack her until the next day. She finally escaped and went to the hospital.  Melo told police the injuries came when his wife fell off a ladder she put on a night stand.  Melo was charged with false imprisonment, domestic battery with strangulation and aggravated assault.  He is being held on $75,000 bond at the Broward County jail. (thanks to Paul Kacprzak)
 
--Invicta FC is partnering with Hope House in Kansas City, a nonprofit shelter for victims of domestic violence to support National Domestic Violence Awareness Month.  The promotion on its web site is selling a line of Knock Out Domestic Violence merchandise.  All proceeds from the sales will go to Hope House.  They are also asking as a show of support for fans coming to Saturday night's show at Memorial Hall in Kansas City to wear purple.  They ask also people to wear purple while streaming the show Saturday night.
 
--The seventh and final match of the Colt Cabana vs. Adam Pearce series for the NWA title takes place on 10/27 in Australia inside a cage.  Match six highlights are at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlgYj0w3kFU 
 
--Premiere Wrestling Xperience on Friday night in Charlotte at the Neighborhood Theater is headlined by Matt Hardy vs. Kevin Steen.  This will be an iPPV through Highspots.com
 
--A free live wrestling show on 10/11 in Winnipeg at the Northern Hotel put on by CWE.  The group also has a TV taping on 10/21 in Winnipeg at the Royal Canadian Polish Legion.  they will tape two episodes.
 
 
--PWX at the PXW Wrestleplex in McKeesport, PA on 10/13
 
--Frank Shamrock will be doing a book signing on Friday night at 7 p.m. at the Barnes & Noble at the Media City Center in Burbank. 
 
--NWA DAWG on 11/2 in Clayton, NJ at the High School headlined by Damien Wayne vs. Anthony Nese.
 
--Monday night CMLL in Puebla:  Ares & Policeman b Dinamico & Tiger Rojo Jr., Hombre Bala Jr. & Stigma & Super Halcon Jr. b Apocalipsis & Artillero & Super Comando, Diamante & Starman & Triton b Arkangel de la Muerte & Escandalo & Hooligan, Taichi & Namajague & Okumura b Angel de Oro & Rey Cometa & Stuka Jr., Virus b Fuego to keep CMLL super lightweight title, La Mascara & Mascara Dorada & Mistico b Black Warrior & Dragon Rojo Jr. & Rey Escorpion (thanks to Kris Zellner and Steve "Dr. Lucha" Sims)
 
--Sunday in Oaxaca:  Cyborg & Caricia b Luz Clarita & Pasion Kristal, Atomic Boy & Halcon 78 & Juventud Guerrera b Decnis & King Dragon & Tonina Jackson Jr., Jack Evans & La Parka b Teddy Hart & Tabu
 
--Legend Wrestling in Tlanepantla:  Black Thunder & Calle 13 & Miedo Extremo b Black & Blue Dragon & Extreme Misterio, Chapuline Negro & Dr. Mascara & Rey Mohicano b American Assassins I & II & Daisuke Hanaoka, Nihon Dragon & Taya Valkyrie & Mini Histeria b Black Thunder & Big Mama & La Parkita, Douky & Heddi Karaoui & Maya Balam & Zumbi b Dr. Karonte & Argenis & Argos & Dar Karonte Jr., Psycho Circus b Chris Masters & Alex Koslov & Rocky Romero
 
--LLC promotion on Sunday in Monterrey before 3,000 fans:  Chamaco Gurrola & Los Gemelos Muerte I  & II b Argenis & Kratos & Rey Orio, Gato Fantama & Pimpinela Escarlata b Genocida & Yuriko, Dalion & Super Parka & Toscano b Antifaz del Norte & Hator & Rico Rodriguez, Hector Garza & Humberto Garza Jr. & El Hijo del Ninja b Blue Demon Jr. & Rayo de Jalisco Jr. & Super Muneco
 
--Former Elite XC bantamweight champion Wilson Reis faces Billy Vaughan in the main event of Matrix Fights on 10/26 in South Philadelphia at the Sheet Metal Worker's Union Hall. 
 
--The revival of the 1-2-3 Kid at last year's CHIKARA King of Trios is at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhTgYEkZ7Uk&feature=youtu.be&a 
 
--Texas All Star Wrestling on 10/6 in Humble, TX at the Coaches Sports Bar at 5304 FM 1960 Road East.
 
--UWE runs on 11/24 in Sault Ste Marie, MI at the Kewadin Casinos DreamMakers Theater with Warlord, Barbarian, Demolition, Jimmy Snuka, Billy Gunn, Scotty 2 Hotty, Rikishi, Rhyno, Al Snow, ODB, Daivari, Ryan Howe and Jessie Belle Smothers.  There will also be a Q&A session on 11/23 at the theater.
 
--River City Wrestling on Saturday night at the Good Shepherd Lutheran Church in San Antonio

Long-term, what are your thoughts on Lucha Underground?

 

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