SUN. UPDATE: More notes from last night's UFC show, Raw tomorrow, Bret Hart looks back, Interesting Raw rating note, WWE media, Buying Rousey vs. Liz, History, Clasics on Demand notes



By Dave Meltzer
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        We're also looking for reports on today's WWE Tribute to the Troops show in Norfolk at the Scope Arena.
 
        Today is TNA's Final Resolution PPV from Orlando:
Chavo Guerrero Jr. & Hernandez vs. Matt Morgan & Joey Ryan for tag team title
Tara vs. Mickie James for Knockouts title
Rob Van Dam vs. Kenny King for X title
Devon & Doc & two masked men vs. Kurt Angle & Garett Bischoff & Samoa Joe & Wes Brisco
Bully Ray vs. Austin Aries
A.J. Styles vs. Christopher Daniels
Jeff Hardy vs. Bobby Roode for TNA title
       
        Monday is Raw TV being taped in Newark, NJ at the Prudential Center, and TNA is taping Impact for Thursday in Orlando.
 
        Smackdown, Main Event and Saturday Morning  Slam will be taped on Tuesday in Bridgeport, CT.  TNA is taping two more episodes of Impact in Orlando.  The main event for the Main Event show is Ryback vs. Alberto Del Rio.
 
        Tonight in Fuel has Ultimate Fighter episodes from 9-11 p.m. and last night's FOX show is being replayed at 11 p.m. tonight, and the post-show coverage will air immediately after the show 
 
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        We also look at the John Cena vs. Dolph Ziggler booking and the match.
 
        We also update the situation with Pro Wrestling NOAH, the once powerhouse promotion that looks to be falling apart.  We look at the reasons the promotion has gone down, what moves are being made and the status going forward of many of its biggest names.  We also look at a record set by Kenta Kobashi that may never be equaled.
 
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        We also have a look at the plans for January with UFC and Bellator both getting new TV time slots.  We look at why both spots are potentially strong, as well as when both are scheduled to debut.
 
        We also have a long biography on the death of Buddy Roberts of the Fabulous Freebirds and Hollywood Blonds tag teams.  We look back to one of the biggest wrestling angles of all-time and how Buddy Roberts fit in, we look at the heyday of Freebirds vs Von Erichs, we've got how the feud kicked off, how The Freebirds ended up in Texas, what Texas wrestling was like when they got there and the famous Christmas 1982 cage match with Ric Flair and Kerry Von Erich.
 
        We look at how Buddy Roberts got started in wrestling, who was his first mentor, his career before the Hollywood Blonds, how the Hollywood Blonds came to be and the wrestling war in Montreal.  We've got comments from a number of people who interacted with Roberts during his career.  We look at his run with Johnny Valentine, we look at how The Freebird trio came to be.  We look at The Freebirds days in Atlanta during the heyday of the Georgia Championship Wrestling TV show. 
 
        We also look at his feud with King Parsons, their run in WWF and why it was so brief, why his career ended and life after wrestling.
 
        We also look more at a flood in a dressing room at a WWE event, an update on Martha Hart's lawsuit against WWE, Dolph Ziggler, a WWE release for legal reasons, a WWE employee who as recently as this summer was competing at a high level in a real sport, two new wrestlers WWE has its eye on and is scouting, Shawn Michaels talks the end of his career, and a former WWE performer rips on John Cena.
 
        We also look at the fate of a WWE performer, DVR viewership of Raw, plus business notes from the past week and details from all the weekend house shows.
 
        We also have a story on the injury to UFC bantamweight champion Dominick Cruz and look at how this impacts the division, with the various big fights coming up.
 
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        We also have coverage of the finals of the 2012 Real World Tag League tournament.
 
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--TNA star wins wrestling bodybuilding contest
 
--A look at the Co pa Juniors tournament in Mexico
 
--Japanese promotion TV show now available weekly in the U.S.
 
--Longtime pro wrestling star leaving business to go to college
 
--A look at Pro Wrestling NOAH's next and possibly last big show
 
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--Biggest pro wrestling crowd of the week, you'll never guess the company or where it took place
 
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--National Pro Wrestling Day
 
--Story on retirement of Tony Mamaluke
 
--Update on Tammy Sytch
 
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--Former WWE star in a hair match this week
 
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--Jim Cornette's current situation and future in ROH
 
--Notes on the 2013 TNA Lockdown show
 
--Update on Jeff Hardy
 
--Update on TNA/Scott Steiner legal problems
 
--TNA star about to graduate college
 
--A look at Wes Brisco on Gut Check
 
--Notes on TNA Impact tapings for the rest of the year
 
--Update on the Final Resolution show
 
--A look at all the TNA weekend shows
 
--Changes in UFC on FOX
 
--Johny Hendricks/Nick Diaz arguments regarding fighting St-Pierre
 
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Sunday's news update
 
--Bryan and I will be back for the third of our four straight nights of coverage, talking TNA Final Resolution, Pacquiao and Kenta Kobashi.  If you've got any questions on pro wrestling or MMA they can be sent to This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
 
--B.J. Penn was taken to the hospital.  There was concern that he fractured ribs in the second round.  Dana White after the show said that he hoped Penn would retire.
 
--White also brought up the possibility that if Dan Henderson's knee injury doesn't heal, that Alexander Gustafsson would be asked to face Lyoto Machida on the 2/23 show in Anaheim.  Gustafsson was asked about that last night and didn't give an answer, just saying that he wasn't injured but would have to talk it over with his team.
 
--The Muppets are scheduled to be social media ambassadors for Raw tomorrow.  I think we've long since established that role means nothing.
 
--In UFC picks from last night, Me, Oliver Copp, Mike Sawyer and Mike Sempervive all went 3-2 while Todd Martin, Bryan Alvarez and Josh Nason went 2-3.  Looks like pretty much everyone got Edwards vs. Stephens and Swick vs. Brown wrong.  The different is the ones at 2-3 picked Diaz over Henderson.
 
 
--David Parker noticed this about the three times this year that the NFL did between 16.17 million and 16.21 million viewers, or essentially identical numbers
The 9/24 Raw did 3.79 million viewers
The 10/1 Raw did 3.50 million viewers
The 12/3 Raw did 3.44 million viewers       
        So factoring in identical football competition, the Raw viewership looks to be significantly dropping.
 
--John Cena appears Thursday on Late Night with Jimmy Fallon.  Sheamus appears Thursday on Conan O'Brien comparing tan lines.  I believe this will be part of the promotion for the TV airing of today's Tribute to the Troops show. (thanks to Jon Southerland)
 
--According to those in WWE, the Colt Cabana Scotty Goldman video isn't necessarily indicative of anything.  It was said that those in the web department are really into C.M. Punk and figure he'd get a kick out of that.
 
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE FEBRUARY UFC SHOWS?
Buying UFC 157, Rousey vs. Carmouche 41.5%
Buying UFC 156, Aldo vs. Edgar 34.4%
        24.8% of those responding said they would buy both.  49.0% of those responding said they would buy neither.  Figures saying they are buying are way over the UFC averages for those from this site for all but the biggest shows.
 
DO YOU BELIEVE NICK DIAZ SHOULD GET THE SHOT AT GSP?
Yes, even though he's not the top contender, he'll do the most business and that's what the decision should be based on 23.9%  
No, Johny Hendricks should get the shot 26.0%
No, not only should Hendricks get the shot, but others should be ahead of Diaz since he hasn't fought in almost a year and his last bout was a loss 22.1%
Would be okay to go with the biggest draw, but not this case because Hendricks did too much in the last year 13.6%
Yes, I believe Diaz is the rightful top contender 7.6%
Yes, while Diaz is not the rightful top contender, I think he's got the best shot of beating GSP 3.4%
Should be Hendricks and I think Hendricks will do the same or better business against GSP 3.4%
        So it's 35.0% saying Diaz should get the shot and 65.0% saying he shouldn't;
 
WHAT RATING DO YOU THINK UFC ON FOX IS GETTING?
1.2 or less 24.8%
1.3 5.1%
1.4 3.3%
1.5 5.8%
1.6 4.7%
1.7 6.6%
1.8 12.0%
1.9 6.9%
2.0 12.0%
2.1 3.6%
2.2 4.4%
2.3 or better 10.6%
        The final number should be between a 2.0 and 2.4 based on the early number.
 
POLL ON IMPACT ON THURSDAY
Excellent 20.7%
Good 42.4%
Average 20.2%
Fair 3.9%
Poor 12.8%
        33.9% of those responding didn't see the show 
 
--Chris Jericho and his band Fozzy plays Monday night in Paris, France at the Trabendo. 
 
--WWE returns to Terry Funk's home city of Amarillo on 5/12 at the Civic Center.
 
--Last night during the Pacquiao-Marquez PPV, there was a moment where they went to Marquez's dressing room for the ref giving instructions to him with his trainer and in the background the UFC show on FOX was airing.  Funny because they were watching the UFC instead of the PPV that they were appearing on and he was watching while preparing for his own right, not to mention many in boxing saw the UFC show as competition.
 
--The Score in Canada will be airing a WWE Vintage Collection marathon on New Year's Eve from 4-8 p.m.
 
--The WWE is partnering with Yahoo to do the on-line iPPV of the Rolling Stones concert on 12/15.
 
--A funny deal is that on the Brad Maddox Experience web site show, that the camera man was wearing a Ryback T-shirt. (thanks to Ed Hannan)
 
 
--Yesterday's Sydney Morning Herald ran a story on Ronda Rousey. (thanks to James Stanios)
 
--Renee Paquette was on the episode of Vintage Collection as a guest co-host and it was talked about as her debut. She used that name instead of Renee Young.  It's likely this was taped and put together before they gave her the new name (thanks to Stephen Gray)
 
--Dory Funk's BANG promotion will be running New Year's Eve in Ocala, FL with Wes Brisco appearing.
 
--St. Louis Anarchy Wrestling from Friday night in Alton, IL:  Billy McNeil & Alex the Big Owl & Jordan Lacey b Evan Gelistico & Gerald James & Dorian Victor, Bolt Brady b Shane Hollister, Devin & Mason Cutter b Darren Dean & Aaron Solo, Rachel Summerlyn b Angelus Layne, Kyle O'Reilly b Gerald James. T.J. Perkins b ACH, Jojo Bravo & Brandon Espinosa b Arik Cannon & Mat Fitchett, Darin Corbin won four-way over Dan Walsh, Evan Gelistico and Darin Childs, Davey Vega b Davey Richards (thanks to Patrick Brandmeyer)
 
--An update on WWE Classics on Demand
They have a History of the Hell in a Cell match
The 2000 TLC match
A 12/29/80 show from Madison Square Garden (I remember that being a big show with Bob Backlund vs. Killer Khan and it was also a New Japan TV taping so Antonio Inoki, Seiji Sakaguchi, Tatsumi Fujinami and Yoshiaki Yatsu appeared.  I think it was Yatsu's first pro match)
ECW TV from June 12, 1998
WWF Mania from February 13, 1993
World Class TV from December 25, 1987
Randy Orton vs. David Otunga street fight from November 29, 2011            
 
--This is actually for yesterday, but on December 8th in history
53 years ago:  Billy Wicks beat Pancho Villa in a tournament final in Pensacola to win the Gulf Coast heavyweight title
41 years ago:  Domenic DeNucci beat Waldo Von Erich to win the NWF world title in Buffalo
41 years ago:  The Alaskans beat The Australians in Miami to win the Florida tag team title
22 years ago:  Tony Anthony & Doug Gilbert beat Jeff Jarrett & Cody Michaels to win the USWA tag team title
18 years ago:  Harlem Heat beat Buff Bagwell & The Patriot to win the WCW tag team title in Atlanta. (thanks to Brian Hoops)
 
 
--USWO from Friday night in Nashville:  Josh Crow b White Tiger, Scott Hayes & Big Time Sexy & Zack Hartnell b Jordan Kage  & Cody Allen & Pizza Boy Chad Hyatt, Mike Jablonski b Larry D, Justin Grandberry b Big Time Sexy, Miss Rachel & D'Arcy Dixon b Mary Kelly & Taryn Shay, Drew Haskins b Steven Walters, Damien Payne b Shawn Hoodrich (thanks to Jimmie Daniel)
 
 
--For those in Australia, the legendary movie "Goldfinger" airs on Ch. 7 on 12/15 at 7:30 p.m. so it may be head-to-head with UFC.  Pro wrestling star Tosh Togo played Oddjob in his biggest acting role.
 
--Adrenaline Championship Wrestling from last night in Millersville, MD:  Chris Wylde b Robbie E, Sexy Steve NC Jimmy Starz, Pretty Ugly b Country Strong, Doyle Day & Buzz Striker & The Patriot (Tom Brandi) b Chris Clow & Mike Hite & Shaun Cannon, Kacee Carlisle b Sienna Duvall and Rebecca Payne in three-way, Diaz b Skull, Ryan McBride b Prodigy, D-Line b Mark & Jay Briscoe to win tag titles, Kindred b Princeton Pike.  Also at the show signing autographs were Miss Tessmacher, Sonjay Dutt and Brutus Beefcake (thanks to Joe Burrows)
 
--An Odd tweet from Beth Hardy (Jeff's wife):  "My hubby's been asleep for a while.  Preparing for the PPV day tomorrow (this was sent yesterday).  I've just been watching him sleep. World, enjoy him while you can."
 
--Lucha Extreme TV from last night in Fresno:  Matt Sparks b Will Da Best, Brandon Groom b Death, Wiseguy b Manny Fernandez (thanks to Jon Southerland)
 
--Mid Missouri Wrestling Alliance from last night in St. Louis:  Brandon Espinosa b Andrew Wilder, Dave Osborne b Matt King, Chase King b Stevie K, Chase King won Battle Royal, Gary Jackson b Big Texan, Brandon Espinosa b Max Archer to win jr. title
 
--On the NBA game on Thursday night, announcers Kevin Harlan and Mike Fratello started talking about pro wrestling.  They mentioned Wahoo McDaniel and Argentina Rocca. (thanks to Dave Korner)
 
--Big Time Wrestling on 12/14 in Newark, CA at the Newark Pavilion has a Battle Royal

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