TUES UPDATE: Rousey/Carmouche buyrate notes, George Lucas' daughter on Y2J show, Undertaker match thoughts, Anderson Silva talks fight with Jon Jones, tons more



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        We've got a feature on Ronda Rousey and Liz Carmouche in leading to the most important woman's MMA fight in history.  We look at the unique dynamic of the fight, women's MMA on television, live ticket sales, previous women's fights on PPV, the UFC Prime Time shows building the fight, the reaction Rousey has received, background of Liz Carmouche and more.
 
        We have a feature on the Jack Swagger arrest and how it affects WrestleMania, as well as Dana White's new stance on TRT and some UFC statistics about big guys vs. small guys that will in some cases confirm what is the general feeling and in others show the exact opposite of what people think, as well as an investigation of terms like ring rust, UFC jitters and weight cutting issues.
 
        We also have notes on The Rock's schedule, what shows he is going to be appearing at and what shows he is going to be missing.  We also look at the scheduled over the next several weeks of Chris Jericho and Brock Lesnar.  We've got a lot of news regarding how the WWE video game deal with Take 2 went down, and why it was so beneficial to THQ.  We look at who the big losers in the deal were.
 
        We also have more on Bruno Sammartino going into the Hall of Fame, who WWE wants to get to induct him, who Sammartino would pick and more.
 
        We also have notes on two other candidates for the Hall of Fame this year, and why both are unlikely to go  in the same year.  We also look at the Zeb Colter character, a WCW character that this may be similar to, R.J. Brewer talks about his gimmick being used, as well as a very interesting statistic regarding children watching WWE that is the exact opposite of what everyone thinks.
 
        We have a lot more on Tammy Sytch, as well as her apology to WWE, another WWE movie, El Generico in WWE, WWE going back to Japan, John Layfield talks the Public Enemy TV beating in the 90s, WWE injury updates, as well as new signings and people who have quietly left.
 
        We also have a rundown on UFC's weekend event on Fuel headlined by Renan Barao vs. Michael McDonald.  We look at the show, the ratings, what happened with the fighters with the best records and the strange judging in spots.
 
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--Fan movement trying to spur change with Japanese wrestling on television
 
--A look at New Japan's anniversary show lineup
 
--What New Japan star has been training at the Blackhouse Gym with Anderson Silva
 
--A look at Oklahoma television icon and former pro wrestling announcer Danny Williams
 
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--Tito Ortiz representing Cyborg and her signing with Invicta.  The pros and cons of the deal
 
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--What happened with UFC and Nick Diaz
 
--Lots of new UFC fights
 
--Update on UFC's status in New York after a judge heard their case this past week
 
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--What big match UFC was looking at doing over Memorial Day and how it fell apart
 
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--What Dana White told Cain Velasquez after Overeem lost
 
--New York Times looks at the Bellator/UFC promotional battle, what UFC wanted from Spike, what Spike wants from Bellator and more
 
--UFC developmental program to try and target a demographic
 
--Update on B.J. Penn and Frank Mir
 
--One of pro wrestling's biggest stars playing two groups against each other and where it seems to stand
 
--A major star from the 80s doing a retirement match and the unfortunate incident that made him such a big heel
 
--A look at CMLL's King of Flyers
 
--Promotion in talk with a new station
 
--Two companies that have nothing in common that are working together and why
 
--Big matches coming to Dragon Gate in Japan, England and the U.S.
 
--All-time legend returns to Japan
 
--Pro wrestler says he's going to attempt to make the Olympic team because of it being the last Olympics
 
--A look at the new AAA Canada group and why Lance Storm isn't happy about it after he was stiffed money
 
--The promotional war in Puerto Rico as well as a Puerto Rican group looking at running shows in California and New York
 
--More on Jake Roberts, DDP and Scott Hall
 
--Former pro wrestler who headlined at the Superdome and is now the star of a new TV show
 
--English language New Japan TV matches airing in Canada
 
--Former wrestler lands a role in a Showtime series
 
--Major TV situation involving ROH
 
--A look at the weekend ROH TV taping
 
--Nick Diaz's legal case is ruled on
 
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Today's News, Notes and Links

-- The excellent John Cena vs. CM Punk match from Raw is up on the front page right now.

-- Fandango allegedly debuts on Smackdown tonight. Thank God.

-- Dave has a story on the early buyrate for Rousey vs. Carmouche here. At this point it's bigger than every UFC show of 2012 that wasn't headlined by a 170-pound-or-above title match.

-- I saw a private video of the Undertaker match from Waco, TX. He seemed to be moving all right during the body of the match, but he's definitely got some physical issues in the sense that he was very, very careful when doing the old school rope walk spot. It looked like he'd be fine to work his way through a match with CM Punk at WrestleMania, though the question is whether he feels he could do a match the calbire, or at least close to the calibre, of the last four years. The feeling is he'll be back on Raw next week, since it is, coincidentally, OLD SCHOOL RAW.

-- The woman on the Chris Jericho Robot Combat League commercial last night during Raw who said she was a professional MMA fighter is Amanda Lucas, who is, seriously, the daughter of George Lucas. She's fought a number of times in Japan.

-- UFC offically announced UFC on FUEL TV 8 on Saturday, March 2nd from the Saitama Super Arena in Japan with Wanderlei Silva taking on Brian Stann in the main event. Silva had turned that fight down a number of times because he didn't want to get booed against his opponent, but I guess he figures if he fights in Japan there's no way he's getting booed. Which is a pretty decent bet. There is a video feature on the card and fight here.

-- Going to be doing an experiment for awhile taking questions for the show on my Twitter, so if you want to participate follow me at @bryanalvarez. Tried it for the Brian Kendrick show today and it worked great. The show is up now and was tons of fun.

-- If you scroll down the right-hand side of the front page, we've added three new FREE radio shows including last night's Wrestling Observer Radio with me and Dave. As noted on that show, Vince McMahon flipped his lid backstage because the piledriver is illegal (unless it's a tombstone and your name is Undertaker or Kane) and Cena and Punk did that spot without his permission.

-- As noted, Dana White talked Jose Aldo into fighting Anthony Pettis this August with the stipulation being that if Aldo wins, he'll get an immediate shot at the 155-pound champion.

-- And speaking of superfights, Anderson Silva is claiming that he will fight Jon Jones at a 192-pound catchweight (which would mean non-title obviously) if UFC can get into New York later this year. Don't get excited about anything Silva says until it's official.

-- Speaking of, yes, the man in the plaid would kill you.

-- East Coast Wrestling Association (ECWA) LIVE! SPRING BATTLE II Sat, March 2, 2013 Greater Newark Boys' & Girls' Club 109 Glasgow Drive, Rt. 40 & #1 Positive Place Newark, DE 19702

-- MICK FOLEY TO APPEAR AT NIGHT OF THE SUPERSTARS Sat., April 13, 2013 Waynesboro High School 1200 W. Main St. Waynesboro, VA 22980

-- Latest TCW Championship Wrestling TV show with fantastic production values and featuring Matt Riviera of MILLIONAIRE MATCHMAKER fame is up here.

-- Russian wrestler returns Olympic gold medal in protestof the IOC voting to remove wrestling from the Olympics in 2020. That's a man who believes in what he stands for.

-- Ed and the crew on Over the Top Rope Radio are running through all the WrestleMania matches from 1-29 in order on the show over the next few months. You can listen to the latest show here.

-- New Chris Jericho interview up here

-- Giant convention upcoming with tons of different names including Ric Flair, Jerry Lawler, etc., apparently headlined by Kelly Kelly. Yup. More info here.

-- Today in history with Brian Hoops:

Verne Gagne was born today in 1926 in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

1944 - Ed "Strangler" Lewis defeated Rollend Kirchmeyer by knockout to win the Florida Heavyweight Title in Tampa, Florida.

1951 - Sky Hi Lee defeated Al Mills to win the Calgary NWA Canadian Heavyweight Title in Edmonton, Alberta.

1952 - Duke Keomuka and Mr. Moto defeated Ray Gunkel and Miguel Guzman for the NWA Texas Tag Team Title in Dallas, Texas.

1957 - Guy and Joe Brunetti defeated Ivan and Karol Kalmikoff for the Minneapolis NWA World Tag Team Title in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

1958 - Don and Jackie Fargo defeated Lee Fields and Lester Welch to win the Mid-America NWA World Tag Team Title in Mobile, Alabama

1967 - Verne Gagne won the AWA World Heavyweight Title (on his birthday) in St. Paul, Minnesota by defeating Mad Dog Vachon.

1969 - Bob Kelly and Ramon Perez defeated Mitsu and Sugi Sito to win the NWA Gulf Coast Tag Team Title in Mobile, Alabama.

1971 - Vivian Vachon defeated Betty Nicoli for the NWA California Women's Title in Los Angeles, California.

1973 - At a WWWF event at Madison Square Garden, AWA World Heavyweight Champion Verne Gagne defeated Eddie Graham (subbing for Ray Stevens). Also, WWWF World Heavyweight Champion Pedro Morales defeated King Curtis Iaukea.

1978 - Dick Murdoch defeats Ted DiBiase for the NWA Missouri Heavyweight Title in St. Louis, Missouri.

1979 - Bill Dundee and Robert Gibson defeated Don Carson and Dennis Condrey to win the AWA Southern Tag Team Title in Memphis, Tennessee.

1979 - Bryan St. John and Randy Alls (Randy Rose) win a tournament for the NWA Central States Tag Team Title in Wichita, Kansas.

1985 - The PYT Express (Norvell Austin and Koko Ware) defeated Jay and Mark Youngblood for the Florida NWA United States Tag Team Title in Tampa, Florida.

1988 - Terry Taylor defeated Matt Borne for the World Class Texas Heavyweight Title in Dallas, Texas.

1988 - Masahiro Chono defeated Mike George to win the World Wrestling Alliance World Heavyweight Title in St. Joseph, Missouri.

1990 - Jimmy Valiant defeated Jerry Lawler to win the USWA Unified World Heavyweight Title in Memphis, Tennessee

1993 - Heavy Metal defeated Rey Misterio, Jr. for the Mexican National Welterweight Title in Mexico City, Mexico

1993 - The Ebony Experience (Stevie Ray and Booker T) defeated The Bad Breed (Axl and Ian Rotten) to win the Global Wrestling Federation Tag Team Title in Dallas, Texas; also Calvin Knapp defeated Alex Porteau for the GWF Light Heavyweight Title

1994 - Colonel DeBeers defeated Bruiser Brian in Portland, Oregon for the Championship Wrestling USA Television Title

1994 - Mike Samson defeated Wayne Rogers for the Southern States Wrestling Heavyweight Title in Morristown, Tennessee

1995 - Bobby Blaze defeated Jerry Lawler to win the SMW Heavyweight Title in Knoxville, Tennessee

-- What was the best promotion of 2012?
New Japan 38.6%
UFC 21.3%
WWE 20.2%
TNA 8.2%
PWG 4.1%
ROH 2.6%
CHIKARA 2.0%
Dragon Gate 1.2%
Bellator 0.9%
IWRG 0.3%
AAA 0.3%
DDT 0.3%

What was the best TV show of 2012?
TNA 30.3%
Raw 23.7%
New Japan World Pro Wrestling 11.0%
ROH 9.2%
Bellator 6.6%
Fight Factory 5.3%
Main Event 4.4%
NXT 3.5%
Smackdown 2.6%
IWRG 1.8%
Dragon Gate Infinity 1.3%
CMLL 0.4%

What was the best match of 2012?
John Cena vs. Brock Lesnar 25.9%
C.M. Punk vs. Daniel Bryan 16.6%
Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Minoru Suzuki 15.9%
Undertaker vs. HHH 14.3%
Davey Richards vs. Michael Elgin 8.1%
Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Kazuchika Okada 6.4%
A.J. Styles & Kurt Angle vs. Christopher Daniels & Kazarian 4.6%
Kazuchika Okada vs. Tetsuya Naito 3.1%
Blue Panther vs. Negro Casas 2.1%
Kenny Omega vs. Kota Ibushi 1.4%
Rock vs. John Cena 1.4%
Kazuchika Okada vs. Hirooki Goto 0.2%

What was the best recent big show?
UFC 157 43.2%
New Japan The New Beginnings 28.9%
WWE Elimination Chamber 23.0%
UFC 156 5.0%

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