Monday, 08 April 2013 00:59
Best match: Punk vs Undertaker
Worst match: HHH vs Lesnar
Okay something is really wrong here....its like this show didn't have a soul or something. There were 80000 people in that building and its like they were unable to emotionally connect with anything....like every aspect of the show - its TV build up, promotion, the matches, outcomes and every move and match timing - were finely tuned by a corporate creative committee, (a) racked with politics and job security fear, and (b) greatly out of step with their audience, until any semblance of emotion and excitement and innovation and drama had been completely removed from both the build and what the script of the show could be. Matches that could were good were too short (Bryan/Kane/Ziggler/Langston, The Shield), matches that were bad went too long (Henry/Ryback, HHH/Lesnar). People who were hot were given no time or material to shine with. We are given no reason or hook to tune in tomorrow night....
This company is phenomenally professional....they are obsessed with it: the promotion of events, the production, how they work media and PR etc - they are literally world class and all that....but the problem for a number of years is that they can put together the machinations and aesthetic appearance of something world class, but they have trouble with presenting substance: characters, angles and matches that really get over. This show is the perfect example of this: on paper it was a great card - 3 main events that could really be dream matches that had marquee value, an exciting enough undercard featuring a bunch of guys making their mania debuts that people are into etc. But its like, say that internally they had their full card seven weeks out....so on paper they are fine, they just have to make it work on the 7 weeks of TV....but whatever their process is: too much second-guessing? Politics? Too many rewrites? Scared of fucking up a good card as they've done this before?....whatever it was, the promotion was just blah....like nothing got over in the build to this event, no real attempt to get heat or emotion or even perceivable storylines for any of the matches. Rock vs Cena II on paper makes perfect sense....but the build up on tv seemed to decrease interest with every week....they hesitated and confused, like they had those promos where they just came across like they were confused about what they were supposed to be saying, and were trying too hard to not come across as boring or confused....they had to do SOMETHING to promote these matches, but couldn't decide what so they did too little of everything. Probably the most effective build for its position on the card was Fandango vs Jericho
And this extends to the matches: Undertaker vs CM Punk occurred in an alternate universe where the rivers run green and purple....the whole segment: video package, Living Colour, ring entrances, match....was just phenomenal, as good as it could've been
Everything else it was like every move of every match, the speed and rhythm, the timings etc were scripted and performed in some aircraft hangar 5 weeks ago, completely arbitrarily, and like the writing the matches were boiled down through so much politics and rewrites and second-guessing that it all ended up a meaningless cookie-cutter lump, ill-fitting to the event and out of step with the crowd....
The Lesnar/HHH match may be the most glaring embarrassment in modern Mania history....are you really telling me that no one involved could work out in the 25 mins they were dying out there that this crowd didn't want what they were given them....it was the scariest rejection of a major heavily-promoted main event match I've seen....literally the second the music stopped and the bell rang you could tell the crowd was fundamentally not buying this match and its style in a way that you never see matches shit on....even really really bad Great Khali matches
The most telling thing was the end of the show: they were so out of step with this crowd that they couldn't work out Rock raising Cena's hand and doing the marine salute WAS NOT WHAT THIS CROWD WANTED TO SEE IN A MILLION YEARS and was going to be completely flat
But....this was the biggest money event in history, so I guess I'm wrong. The bottom line is while you can't have every match a home run, have everything get over etc this company really should be better at doing this kind of thing by now, be able to put on a more solid show for its biggest show of the year. All the company has to do is to get over wrestlers and feuds, and promote wrestling matches and wrestlers....everything else is marketing and merchandising that product. It seems that core product is the thing this company is least able or willing to do....
|Best Match: Punk vs. Undertaker
Worst Match: Ryback vs. Mark Henry
We had 6 people total at my house for Wrestlemania and enjoyed the show.
The highlight of the night for our group was Paul Heyman, especially his reactions ringside and using the urn during the Punk match. We wished they had a separate screen for the entire match just for Heyman. He was also very much enjoyed during the Lesnar match.
We expected Cena to win the main event, but it was a pretty big letdown for our group on the execution of the finish.
Also disappointment that Ziggler didn't come back out to cash in MITB, especially after taking the fall in the tag match.
I give this a 7/10 for a Wrestlemania. Not a real thumbs up.
Best match was the Taker/Punk match. Loved the live intro for Punk.
Worst match... they were all fine. Nothing really bad. Swagger/Del Rio I guess since I really wanted Ziggler involved.
We had 30 people together to watch the show. We went to wwe.com and paid to watch the show and we ended up getting the error message and had to find an illegal feed online. Frustrating start to the night.
I was disappointed with the lack of huge moments on the show. The entire show just felt very "okay, that makes sense". Our group hated HHH winning, felt like just a huge ego stroke. The Rock/Cena finish was the right finish but the after-match celebration was bizarre. Also don't understand why Ryback would lose just to then pull of his finisher... to me that doesn't make sense. Just give him the victory! That finish made me feel like neither big man looked invincible.
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I was a TV watcher tonight, but attended Wrestlemania 24 in Orlando and noticed numerous obstructed view issues at that card after arriving early and walking around a bit. I surprised me at the time that it wasn't a bigger deal during and immediately after that show. The canopy over the ring, just like tonight, had four support posts that cut off numerous diagonal views on the floor and higher up too.
Best match: Undertaker vs. Punk.
Worst: Mark Henry vs. Ryback.
The undercard was lackluster, the crowd was surprisingly dead and the lack of heat reminded me of Wrestlemania IV in the "Trump Tomb." There were no significant unexpected developments on the show, with the exception of the supposed Big Show "heel turn," which really wasn't a turn since he was never really a babyface to begin with. There was nothing compelling about the show that makes me feel the need to tune into Raw tomorrow night.
San Mateo, CA
Just wanted to share some feedback regarding WrestleMania 29. I would have to give the show a thumbs in the middle, with the best match being Taker-Punk by default since nothing else really stood out for me and the worst match being Ryback and Henry. Usually I enjoy Wrestlemania but the flow of the show seemed really off. I don't know if it was because lack of crowd reactions, bad matches, the $70.00 bucks I paid to watch in HD, or maybe it was Snooki sitting in the front row? But something was off!
Shield VS Orton, Sheamus, Show - A very good tag match in my opinion, The Shield is really talented and they did well as the opening match on the PPV. Things seemed to be off to a good start with a good opening match and great visuals of the stadium, but quickly got stagnate after that point.
Ryback VS Henry - God awful match that made no sense. Why is Ryback losing to Mark Henry? I thought Ryback was the next big thing? Mark Henry has been the same wrestler since he started over a decade ago, result made no sense.
Bryan & Kane VS Ziggler & Langston - Decent match and good to see the champs retain the tag titles since they have title changes way too often in my opinion. Why is Ziggler still carrying around the briefcase? I thought there was a time limit in which to cash in? Seem's like Ziggler has had the briefcase since Backlund was champion.
Jericho VS Fandango - Somebody need's to change Fandango's gimmick quick! I don't see his gimmick lasting very long. But decent match and good to see someone new getting over for once.
Alberto VS Swagger - Restroom break during this match since I'm not really a fan of either one of these guys. I don't really like the Swagger gimmick with Zeb, and Alberto as a face just does not work, the guy is a natural heel and need's to be pushed as a heel. I'm just looking for my $70.00 bucks back at this point that I paid for this mess.
Taker VS Punk - Best match of the show in my opinion, I'm a big fan of the streak, along with being a fan of Taker and Punk. Good to see Taker matched up with a good opponent in Punk since Taker is getting really limited in what he can do, Punk made the match exciting and Taker is great with facials and adding drama. Thought for sure that Punk broke something when he flew on the table and it did not break, but somehow made it back in the ring. Crowd seemed to perk up for this match.
HHH VS Lesnar - Not sure what to make of this match. Very physical, but just seemed strange. Lesnar came out with a big welt already on his cheek, and not sure why Sean Michaels was even there. Wrong finish in my opinion, Lesnar should have won. Or maybe HHH winning was the right choice? I don't know, dang match had me confused! Maybe I'm still distraught over the 70 bucks that flew out the window for this PPV?
Cena VS Rock - This match really had nowhere to go without Cena winning. Rock is going back to Hollywood to promote his movies, he does not have time to be the champion right now. Of course this leaves us with Cena as champion, again... I guess the last decade with Cena as champ was just not enough, we are now forced to sit through another Cena title run. At least there is a new title belt, and we don't have to see that god awful spinner belt. And what exactly where Cena and Rock yapping about after the match in the middle of the ring? They seemed to be having a lengthy conversation. For a minute I was waiting (and hoping) for a swerve, but no luck. Maybe they were talking about why the 8 person tag match with Brodus was canceled?
Anyway, as I previously mentioned, something just seemed a little off the whole night. I don't know if it was the timing and flow of the matches, maybe the outdoor stadium took something away since most outdoor shows seem to do that, but just a strange Wrestlemania. The only reason I gave the show a thumbs in the middle was because it was Wrestlemania, otherwise it would have probably been a thumbs down. Maybe I'm still stinging from the 70 bucks that I flushed?
Best Match: Undertaker vs. CM Punk
Worst Match: Henry vs. Ryback
Show was horrible live. Crowd did not care about a single thing other than 'Taker/ Punk and the last 3 minutes of Rock and Cena. Matches were short and underwhelming for the most part, nothing stood out. Extremely boring, subpar show with a phenomenally dead crowd, but in this case it was understandable. I left the building really wishing I hadn't spent money on tickets.
- Dan Marsiglia, NJ
Thumbs WAY down!
Worst Match:Rock/Cena & Ryback/Henry
I can't believe what a dreadful boring by the numbers show this was. Terrible announcing, dead crowd, completely predictable plodding in many cases sloppy matches. And also wasting an insane amount of ppv time patting themselves on the back with videos of what a wonderful company they are. There were no special moments I'll remember years from just hideous boredom.
The first 2 hours were dull.
Glad the Shield won but could have been 6-7 minutes longer would have been good. Time to establish the individual personalities of that group.
I didnt expect miracles with Ryback/Henry,but goddamn.
Taker/Punk was very good. Not the last 4 years of Taker matches,but still very good.
HHH/Brock was very stiff. Brock should have gone over,but it is what it is.
Rock/Cena was better than last years match. Hoping for a Cena heel turn,but i understand why they didnt. You cant show a Cena Make-a-Wish Foundation and have him turn heel.
personal notes: the theatre i watched it in was not sold out for the first time in 4 years.
Not sure how that will translate in buys. but despite the first 2 hours a good show.
Anyone sitting anywhere near the corners had their view obstructed by the set. I basicly watched the show on the video boards because my view of the ring was almost completely blocked. Heard they had these issues in the past and apparently they werent addressed by the company.
I watched 3 IPPV and WrestleMania this weekend and by far even with the problems with the Evolve IPPV , WrestleMania was the worst. Thumbs down all the way.
Overall Thoughts: Thumbs basically up
Best Match: Rock vs Cena
Worth Match: Henry vs The Ryback
Barrett v. Miz:
Didn't see, was trying to finish cooking dinner. Miz is now 4-0 at WM, maybe he can win a few more no point matches to reach 8-0, and then lose in mostly no point match. I really wish Barrett was treated better, he is most likely mid-card for life now.
The Shield vs Sheamus/Show/Orton:
Something was missing in this match. I don't know if the crowd wanted Orton to turn on his team. Especially when he was super obnoxiously cheering whilst Dean was get slapped by Show. Due to the lack of reaction from the crowd, I had a sense of doom for the rest of the card. I'm glad The Shield won, though what is next for Punk's former hired hands? Freebird style tag-team belt run, help Punk get the belt back, destroy Ziggler's crew: I hope for the last one.
Rating: 2 stars
Mark Henry vs The Ryback
I bet Vince Russo is smiling right now, really with the 'Get Your Heat Back' post match nonsense. This match should have lasted less than a minute, involved Ryback trying and failing to lift up Henry; then Henry 'World's Strongest Slammin' Ryback for the pin. Instead we got Henry winning without doing his move, then Ryback being a sore loser doing his move afterwards. And this Ryback fella is supposed to be a big time star, I'd rather see Nathan Jones. Also, this match was incredibly slow and boring, though I'm sure everybody could guess such things.
Rating: - 2 stars
Team Hell No vs Ziggler and Big E
Daniel Bryan is a great wrestler, shocking I know, and Ziggler is a great bump taker, also shocking. Dragon proved that this crowd was capable of caring about a match, which made my sense of doom for this card disappear. Though magically when Dragon wasn't in the match nobody cared again. Maybe this guy should only be in single's matches, when he would be in the match the whole time, novel right? Team Ziggy is basically Job Squad 2.0; none of its three members are in a good position right now, please break this worthless team up.
Rating: 2.5 stars, just for Bryan getting the crowd into it for a minute
Jericho vs Fandango
Decent debut, the entrance was fantastic. Probably most people just assumed Jericho was jobbing here, so they really didn't get into it. t thought the finish was almost too complicated with Jericho realizing his move was being countered, so he changed his move midair, which in turn caused him to tweak his knee, which wasn't evident till Jericho tried tried his finishing submission on Fandango. So Johnny just got lucky Chris was so clumsy? Oh well, Jericho probably brought the best out of this kid.
Rating: 2.5 stars
Del Rio vs Swagger
Zeb wearing a tie was the highlight of this match. Nothing wrong with the match, Del Rio is a nice fiery baby face, but this feud is about 20 years past its time to receive any reaction. Unfortunately for Dutch, his time might be up soon. Maybe Del Rio vs evil Randy Orton might have worked better, and maybe if Del Rio had a good reason to turn face the people would be behind him. I did find Ricardo's fake crutch walk hilarious, like every other fake crutch walk in WWE history.
Rating: 2 stars
Punk vs Taker
At this point I wasn't very high on the show, nothing really seemed special, wasn't blown away by any great mid-card match. I just hoped Punk could save the show, and he mostly did. Beyond commenting on all the moves Taker couldn't do anymore with my buddy, and sensing major doom as Punk tried the Savage elbow to the Spanish announce table, I enjoyed this match. Punk and Taker got the people to care for more than one minute: they chanted things, they somewhat bought the urn shot near-fall, they enjoyed Punk's reversal of the Hell's Gate. This match was still good, the second best of the card, but I had a feeling that each year we see a more and more limited version of Taker. I hope next year he finally faces Cena, and they decide if he is allowed to retire with one lose or none on his WM record. If Taker keeps it up for another few years, it might turn into something sad. All that negativity being said, I thought that Mr. Punk did his best to work with Taker under all the
Rating: 3.5 stars
Lesnar vs HHH
This was weird, weird, weird match. I really had no idea why nobody cared at all until the very end. Oh yeah, people have been sick of HHH for years with his 'I was hurt but now I'm back and better than ever' nonsense. Nobody sees him as a sympathetic baby face, and they never will. Putting submission moves on forever is comical in this UFC-is-almost-20-years-old era. The Cena match last year was special, mainly due to Cena and Lesnar doing the most non-wrestling wrestling match possible. The two Triple H matches have been too much about submissions which should break people's arms in five seconds. I was just dumbfounded with the Lesnar's power bomb on the steps to break up the Kimura three times and it wasn't the finish, the only word is really just dumbfounded. Heyman and HBK took the co-bump of the night honors with their interference. Trips, if you are reading, which is extremely doubtful due to the amount of people probably giving feedback, please just spend you
r time h
elping the younger guys in the back and making Bruno like deals. Nobody really wants to see you wrestle anymore.
Rating: 1.5 stars, due to strangeness
Rock vs Cena
I have heard a few times that playing to the crowd is discouraged in the WWE, and this match is a example of how idiotic that discouragement is. Playing to the crowd was the reason the crowd got more into the match. Was the match slow at times, yes; was the sleeper hold put on too long, yes; did we need every AA and Rock Bottom kick-out, probably not; was I intrigued by Cena giving heel facial expressions, of course; did the match tell a great story, yes. I really liked the stealing each other moves shtick at the end, especially when Cena baited The Rock, unsuccessfully, but still, when he tried his second People's elbow. I believed this match was much better than last year, because of how they hinted at last year in this match. With a crowd that was only hot for one match, which had been sitting there for almost four hours at that point, they really got them to care about this match. When I find myself wondering if they changed the result of the match, that is usually a g
. But, I don't want to see a rubber match, mainly I couldn't handle the build, and I almost got a sense Rock isn't coming back with the amount of time he spent in the ring by himself. (Also why on earth would he need to face Lesnar now?) Did the fans boo when Rock did the handshake and hug, of course; does everybody want Cena to go heel, most people; but #1 baby faces don't grow on #1 baby face trees; and until they find one, no black U Can't See Me shirt for Cena. Still great job by these guys, and Rock did the right thing for business putting the guy over.
Rating: 4 stars
I haven't been keeping up much with the Japanese scene as of late, but decided to give the iPPV a try.
Holy crap...what an awesome show!
From the opening match to the final main event it was one of the best shows I've ever seen. Nothing to complain about at all.
Everyone seemed to bring their "A" game and the Tanahashi/Okada match was fantastic and a legit MOTY candidate.
Thumbs WAY up for this one!!