SUN. UPDATE: WWE house show notes, Rousey TV special, Riggs comeback, Lesnar vs. Rock, Goldberg, Hogan, Rhodes, Magnus, Boxing champ wants to be pro wrestling world champ
Sunday, 25 August 2013 12:23
By Dave Meltzer |
We're looking for reports on today's WWE house shows in Ontario, CA and Rio Rancho, MN, as well as last night's shows from San Diego and Las Cruces, NM at
Total Divas airs on E! tonight at 10 p.m.
Raw is Monday night in Phoenix with Curtis Axel vs. C.M. Punk for the IC title on the show.
Smackdown and Main Event will be taped on Tuesday in Las Vegas, which is the end of the company's long West Coast tour.
We've got two issues up of the Observer this week, both a 1996 back issue covering the saga of Brian Pillman, and the newest issue covering the saga of John Cena.
Our lead story looks at Cena's injury, the reaction of the live crowd in Anaheim, roughly when the injury took place, notes on the surgery, on Cena's final interview, why the injury can be viewed as a blessing in disguise and what it forces WWE to do right now. We also look at questions regarding Cena's injury, notes from Bob Holly's book about the WWE program, thoughts from other wrestlers on Cena, Cena's public statements on steroid and PED use which are stronger than almost anyone in pro sports, WWE scheduling changes with Cena out and what may end up as Cena's very unique legacy and position in the history of the industry.
We've got full coverage of SummerSlam, looking at the big two fantastic matches, analysis of the booking of the main event, more on the McMahon family storyline going forward, the WrestleMania symposium and controversy coming out of it, as well as a look at the key comments that probably caused the differing opinions on it. We look at the various Ric Flair stories including one the company probably didn't like and the wide variety of reactions the symposium got.
We look at what Ric Flair was in town for, and how the WWE handled things after the fact.
We also look at the Alberto Del Rio/Drew McIntyre story, or at least the version that went across the company the day after.
We also look at the business notes on the show, a rundown of what is on the board and what looks like is being built up for Night of Champions, a dark horse idea for one of the top matches, and a look at the new RVD/Ricardo Rodriguez pairing.
We've also got our usual PPV coverage with match-by-match rundown with star ratings and poll results of the show.
We also have a look at the debut of FS 1 with UFC Fight Night. We look at the business moves that were paid to insure 90 million homes had the availability to see the show, and how and why from a financial standpoint they are opening up far weaker than expected.
We also look at the first night ratings, and the growth throughout the show. We look at other business, the stories post-show, as well as match-by-match coverage.
We also have a major feature on Darren Young coming out. We look at where the idea likely came from, the media reaction, stars who had come out previously to little media interest, the sad final chapter of Kanyon and WWE history when it comes to sexual orientation of employees. We look at why those who thought Young was risking his career couldn't have been more wrong. We look at how WWE handled it on television, and company reaction.
We also have an update on Dwayne Johnson and WWE and what an affiliate business was told about who they have major plans for. We also look at a major star from the past they are in talks with, as well as notes on Ultimate Warrior in Los Angeles.
We have more on next year's WrestleMania, as well as Steve Austin's reaction when it comes to wrestling again.
We've got a note on the WrestleMania 2015 location and something that likely didn't make WWE happy regarding the negotiations.
We've got tons of comments on Daniel Bryan based on a long feature story on him, with quotes from many people around him, more on the heat on Sin Cara, his injury, the Legends of WrestleMania mode in the video game, more on the WWE's unknown rules of wrestling, the repackaging of the Colons, and gambling and the WrestleMania finishes as well as the Reddit guy.
We also have notes on C.M. Punk's reaction to Ryan Braun, WWE video sales, Brock Lesnar fighting again,the Jerry Lawler museum and Rob Van Dam taking heat from TNA fans. We also look at the Total Divas show.
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--Major rock stars in Japan talk pro wrestling
--Update on wrestling in the Olympics
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--Notes on Bully Ray's title win
--More on the Jesse Sorensen being cut situation
--TNA's handling of Kurt Angle's situation
--Update on the Bound for Glory series and standings
--Notes on Howard Stern tie-in for Bound For Glory
--TNA weekend house show note
--Stefan Struve's medical condition
--Latest UFC PPV numbers
--Thoughts on upcoming UFC PPVs
--Dana White's reaction to the Biogenesis story
--GSP asks for outside drug testing and what it means
--Former WEC champ fined and suspended for steroid test failure
--Lots of new UFC matches, and matches being talked about
--First Countdown show on FS 1
--Boston legal controversy regarding minors attending shows
--Will UFC go head-to-head against Bellator
--Chael Sonnen speaks with the inspiration of his promos
--Dana White talks Ronda Rousey's mentioning of retirement and her Twitter responses
--Dana White talks Ben Askren
--UFC fighter fired after burglary conviction
--Rousey talks Miesha Tate and Bryan Caraway
--UFC thinking about creating a regional circuit
--Notes on Eddie Alvarez settlement and contract
--How Bellator is gambling with this
--More on the Bellator PPV show
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SUNDAY'S NEWS UPDATE
--Bryan and I will be back tonight for Wrestling Observer radio talking all the weekend news. We'll also be taking e-mail questions sent to
--Some major events upcoming on Fox Sports 1. UFC 148 airs from 7-10 p.m. tonight. That's the second Anderson Silva vs. Chael Sonnen card. Countdown to UFC 164 airs tomorrow night from 10-11 p.m. against the third hour of Raw. Spike always did well with those shows at 11 p.m. Mondays. Wednesday is a live show from Indianapolis with Carlos Condit vs. Martin Kampmann. UFC 164 prelims are 8-10 p.m. Saturday night before the PPV. A week from tomorrow is a one hour special at 8 p.m. called "Breaking Ground with Ronda Rousey" to help build the debut of Ultimate Fighter a week from Wednesday. (thanks to Jon Southerland)
--The WWE show in San Diego last night was the same show as in Fresno the night before with Randy Orton vs. Daniel Bryan ending with The Shield interfering for the title-saving DQ as the main event. (thanks to Garry Kamansky)
--The Las Cruces show, which would be the same as today's Rio Rancho show, had C.M. Punk over Curtis Axel in a non-title match as the main event. Paul Heyman is on the tour. Christian also worked with Alberto Del Rio.
--The move of UFC Tonight from Fuel/FS 2 to FS 1 will be on 9/11, because the next two Wednesdays are live UFC events on FS 1. UFC Tonight will be part of a block with the new season of Ultimate Fighter.
--ON THIS DAY IN PRO WRESTLING HISTORY (thanks to Brian Hoops and Graeme Cameron)
1967 - Skull Murphy & Killer Kowalski beat Red Bastien & Mario Milano in Sydney to win the IWA tag titles
1970 - Johnny Walker & Tojo Yamamoto beat The Masked Interns to win the Southern tag team titles in Memphis
1970 - Skandor Akbar & Buddy Colt beat Bill Dromo & Alberto Torres to win the Macon tag team titles
1984 - The Road Warriors beat Crusher & Baron Von Raschke in Las Vegas to win the AWA tag titles
1984 - The Crush Gals (Chigusa Nagayo & Lioness Asuka) beat Jumbo Hori & Yukari Omori to win the WWWA tag titles
1991 - Sting beat Steve Austin in the finals of the tournament for the U.S. title in Atlanta
1995 - 2 Cold Scorpio beat Eddy Guerrero to win the ECW TV title in Jim Thorpe, PA
1996 - Original Tiger Mask & Yoji Anjo beat Abdullah the Butcher & Daikokubo Benkei in Yokohama to win the TPW tag titles
1997 - Taka Michinoku beat El Satanico in Puebla to win the FMW/Michinoku Pro Independent jr. title
1999 - Mitsuharu Misawa & Yoshinari Ogawa beat Yoshihiro Takayama & Takao Omori to win the All Japan tag titles in Hiroshima
2002 - Brock Lesnar beat The Rock at SummerSlam to become the youngest WWE version world champion in history at the Nassau Coliseum. Rob Van Dam beat Chris Benoit for the IC title on the same show.
WHAT SEPTEMBER SHOW ARE YOU MOST LOOKING FORWARD TO?
WWE Night of Champions 63.6%
UFC 165 17.9%
New Japan Kobe 12.1%
ROH Death Before Dishonor 6.4%
WHY WERE DOMESTIC BUYS SO FAR UP FOR MONEY IN THE BANK?
A series of good shows increased buys 44.7%
Far more interest in MITB matches 31.9%
People wanted to see Cena vs. Henry due to Henry's promo 23.4%
WHY WERE INTERNATIONAL BUYS SO FAR DOWN FOR MONEY IN THE BANK?
Lessening of interest in WWE overseas 51.0%
People didn't want to see Cena vs. Henry 29.2%
Far less interest in MITB matches 13.5%
A series of good shows didn't make a difference 6.3%
IF YOU WATCHED LAST SATURDAY'S UFC, ARE YOU WATCHING ON WEDNESDAY?
Yes, will watch a free UFC show 50.0%
Yes, good main event with Condit vs. Kampmann 23.8%
No, Wednesday night is a bad night for me 8.8%
No, only watched UFC to see Sonnen 8.8%
Yes, like Wednesday's card 6.3%
No, Saturday was a good card, this one isn't 2.5%
POLL ON SMACKDOWN
37.8% of those responding didn't see the show
POLL ON MAIN EVENT
62.8% of those responding didn't see the show
POLL ON FIGHT MASTER
72.8% of those responding didn't see the show
POLL ON IMPACT
36.4% of those responding didn't see the show
WILL HENDERSON VS. PETTIS BEAT 275,000 BUYS
Will be right at that number 20.5%
--Hulk Hogan made page one yesterday of BILD, one of the biggest newspapers in Germany. They talked about how Hogan was washed up because he couldn't even beat Toronto mayor Rob Ford in an arm wrestling match. Yes, they thought it was real.
--Cody Rhodes will be speaking at Thunderbird High School in Phoenix tomorrow before Raw.
--Jim Ross is in the U.K. this week doing a series of speeches around the country to sold out audiences with the exception of tickets available still in Manchester on Monday at the Comedy Store.
--Magnus was in the U.K. this weekend hosting a World's Strongest Man type TV show.
--SMASH All women's wrestling and a free viewing of WWE Night of Champions on 9/15 at The E-Zone in Toronto at 120 North Queen St. Live matches are 5 p.m. All tickets for the live show and WWE screening are $15.
--Extreme Wrestling League on 8/29 in Oshawa, ONT at the Octaviens Hall
--Riddick Bowe, 46, the former world heavyweight boxing champion, wants to get into pro wrestling saying he wants to become the first person ever to hold both the world heavyweight boxing and pro wrestling title.
--Squared Circle Live at 6 p.m. at the Class Act Dinner Theater in Whitby, ONT. They will screen a Michael Elgin vs. Colt Cabana DVD at 5:35 p.m. and then have a show at 6 p.m. with Matt Morgan, Tyson Dux and Jimmy Korderas.
--WWE will have a Smackdown TV taping on 10/29 in Tampa at the Tampa Bay Times Forum.
--John Tovar is looking for help from historians for an August 25, 1984 show promoted by Southwest Championship Wrestling called ""The Event IV" with the Zambuie Express vs. Sheepherders and Rock & Roll Express vs. Fabulous Blonds, looking for results, attendance and gate at
--Lucha Xtreme TV from last night in Fresno: Brian Tannen b Jessie Richards, Mike Rayne & Zero b Marcus Eriks & Crimson Plague, Wiseguy b Al Azar.
--In Your Face Wrestling on 11/9 in Ballston Spa, NY at the Community Center.
--Great Lakes Championshp Wrestling on 10/14 at Turners Hall in Milwaukee.
--Angelina Love will join Ted DiBiase (Sr.) and Tommy Dreamer on 11/1 to 11/3 in Winnipeg for the Central Canadian ComicCon at the CWE booth.
--SHINE on 9/27 in Ybor City, FL at the Orpheum for a 9 p.m. show