SUN UPDATE: WWE & UFC injury updates, UFC reaction, Storm on Mir stoppage, Vegh injjury update, oldest title belt, Muto's first title win, Hulk vs. Jake, UFC rating, What show are you most interested in
Sunday, 01 September 2013 15:18
By Dave Meltzer |
We're looking for your thoughts on last night's UFC 164, so you can leave a thumbs up, thumbs down or thumbs in the middle along with a best and worst match to
We're also looking for reports on today's WWE house show in Washington, DC as well as last night's TNA show in Woodstock, VA and Friday night's TNA show in Hagerstown, MD.
Monday night is the live Raw from Des Moines.
Smackdown and Main event will be taped Tuesday in Minneapolis.
It's a big week of Observers with a double issue on the site as well as the new back issue on the site which covers the life and career of Dick Murdoch, as well as one of WCW's best-ever PPV shows on its road to growth.
It's kind of a West Texas week, with both the story of Murdoch, as well as the story of Don "The Lawman" Slatton, one of the most colorful figures of the 60s and 70s, known for being the greatest practical joker of his time with the classic story of Jack Brisco and the Governor.
The lead story in the new issue looks at the biggest stars in boxing, MMA and pro wrestling, and thus far in 2013, comparing where they stand from 2012. Who gained by losing. Who lost by losing. Who doesn't get pushed to the level of their popularity. Some interesting notes in this one.
We also talk about what will be one of the biggest shows in Mexican wrestling history, the CMLL's 80th anniversary show coming up on 9/13 at Arena Mexico.
We look at the HHH interview in Grantland with comments on a lot of subjects, including Vince McMahon, Steve Austin, Wade Keller, Bruce Mitchell, Brock Lesnar, buffer matches, match orders, wrestling reporters, Mick Foley, chair shots to the head, Japanese death matches, developmental, Sly Stallone, a physical Hall of Fame, and even Damien Sandow. A lot of different topics are broached here.
We also have notes on WrestleMania 32, Bill Goldberg talks what he has and hasn't agreed to regarding WWE and his thoughts on Ryback and Undertaker, what wrestling movie project WWE has turned down, an interesting note on Night of Champions on PPV, update on the show, Ted DiBiase talks leaving WWE and his background and a look back at his WWE run, planned key house show programs, wrestlers appearing on USA Network show, lots of TV work by former WWE star, who was the mystery guy in Total Divas chasing Nattie Neidhart, SummerSlam gambling and what was different from recent shows, update on Rey Mysterio, Jerry Lawler's affinity for Batman, WWE NXT tapings notes, new signings, new names, return to Mexico, Best of MSG DVD, Jim Ross U.K. talk show stories, Sammy Zayn vs. Antonio Cesaro 2/3 falls, as well as business notes from the past week and highlights from all the house shows.
We also have a feature on the greatest heavyweight rivalry on the current MMA scene Cain Velasquez and Junior Dos Santos as they prepare for their October match. We look at what is holding both back from being considered all-time legends, their amazing records in fights not against each other, personality differences, MMA in the U.S. vs. Brazil, something Velasquez believes is a significant edge for him in fight No. 3.
We also note the rosters for the new season of Ultimate Fighter.
We've got a major feature on Don "The Lawman" Slatton, one of the most colorful wrestling figures of the 60s, including the questions regarding the night he either did or didn't try to steal the world title from Harley Race in a chain match, the story of that match that has gone down in wrestling folklore, West Texas wrestling, where he first gained national recognition, his most famous practical jokes, and wrestling in Abilene.
We also look at the WWE July business notes including the big unanswered question involving the Money in the Bank numbers, as well as attendance, DVD shipments and more.
Plus we've got an updated look on how Raw, Smackdown and Impact are doing as a trend as compared to a year ago. We look at what is a notable continuing trend regarding viewership of pro wrestling in 2013 as compared to 2012.
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--What wrestler was always against it
--Ric Flair's fondness for Wahoo McDaniel
--Flair talks greatest tag teams he ever saw
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--Update on former WWE star now playing college football this season
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--Damien Darling talks relationship with Tammy Sytch
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--Tara talks leaving TNA and if she'll come back
--Departure of SoCal Val
--A look at Hulk Hogan's comments at his Q&A in Toronto
--Hogan and Bischoff talk 90s angles
--Hogan admits where he got his schtick from
--Bischoff says he's learned a lot
--Notes on next taped TNA PPV show
--Notes on Wanderlei Silva interview
--Update on the health of Stefan Struve
--Lots of notes on how FS 1 is doing
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--Lots of new UFC fights
--Notes on Cerrone arrest
--Blow away notes on the first UFC on FS 1
--What this says about the UFC's fan base
--Boston politics regarding minors attending MMA shows
--My thoughts on the new law
--UFC injury updates
--Bellator PPV notes
--Bjorn Rebney talks Ben Askren's contract situation
--Notes on Bellator's first few shows of he new season
--Former UFC fighter arrested twice in the same week in his attempt to beat Tammy Sytch's records
--Cris Cyborg tries new sport on TV
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SUNDAY'S NEWS UPDATE
--An update on Mark Henry is that he was pulled from today's WWE show in Washington, DC, and is going to get an MRI done on his hamstring tomorrow to find out the extent of the damage. Henry was injured running to the ring at last night's show in Boston.
--No update on the UFC injuries from last night. Anthony Pettis suffered a knee injury early in the fight with Benson Henderson. Henderson's right arm was messed up from the winning armbar.
--UFC was the second most searched term yesterday in the U.S. behind Johnny Manziel. Searches were well above the last show.
--You can get tickets to Survivor Series on 11/24 in Boston with the pre sale code SURVIVOR
--On the Attila Vegh injury story, the medical documentation Bellator provided was for a hematoma on the right side of the chest that was dated April 15. I think everyone knew Vegh was injured a few months back. The reporter said that Vegh is training at 100% in Poland right now and said that the interview where Vegh claimed he wasn't hurt but was asked to step aside was correctly translated.
ON THIS DAY IN PRO WRESTLING HISTORY (thanks to Graeme Cameron and Brian Hoops)
1868 - Homer Lane beat James McLaughlin for the American Collar and Elbow championship in Utica, NY, which may be the earliest championship in the U.S. on record
1923 - Clarence Weber beat his student, Billy Meeske, in Melbourne, to win the Australian heavyweight title before 10,000 fans. The Weber vs Meeske matches between 1923 and 1926 is generally credited for reviving wrestling in Australia. Weber was champion from 1905 to 1915, but retired when World War I started.
1941 - Wild Red Berry beat Danny McShain in Hollywood to win the world light heavyweight title
1946 - George Becker beat Babe Sharkey in Portland, OR to win the Pacific Northwest version of the world title
1956 - Rikidozan beat Tom Price in Tokyo to win the Pacific Coast title
1958 - Eddie & Dr. Jerry Graham beat Mark Lewin & Don Curtis in Washington, DC to win the U.S. tag team title
1977 - Yumi Ikeshita beat Jane O'Brien in Honolulu to win the women's All-Pacific title
1966 - Killer Kowalski beat Bearcat Wright in Sydney to win the IWA title
1972 - Johnny Valentine beat Johnny Powers in Cleveland to win the NWF North American title
1977 - Don Leo Jonathan beat Otto Wanz in Johannesburg, South Africa to win the CWA title
1977 - Dory Funk Jr. beat Ciclon Negro in Amarillo to win the International title
1978 - Pak Choo & Roddy Piper beat Black Gordman & Ryuma Go to win the Americas tag team title in Los Angeles
1978 - Irish Paddy Ryan beat Mr Sakurada in Calgary to win the North American title
1979 - Pat Patterson was introduced on TV as the first WWWF IC champion
1979 - Jimmy Snuka beat Ricky Steamboat in Charlotte in the finals of a one-night tournament to win the U.S. title
1980 - Tommy Rich beat Jimmy Valiant in Memphis to win the Southern title
1982 - Paul Jones beat Jack Brisco in Charlotte to win the Mid Atlantic title
1985 - El Hijo del Santo beat Aristotle in Mexico City to win the UWA lightweight title
1985 - Paul Diamond & Shawn Michaels were awarded the Texas tag team title from Texas All-Star Wrestling in San Antonio
1986 - Battle of the Belts in Daytona Beach saw The White Ninja (Keiji Muto) beat Tim Horner to win the U.S. jr. title and Barry Windham beat Ron Bass to win the Florida title
1986 - Matt Borne & Buzz Sawyer beat Chris Adams & Lance Von Erich in Fort Worth to become the first World Class tag team titles
1986 - Denny Brown beat Steve Regal to win the NWA world jr. title in Greenville, SC. This isn't William Regal, but Mr. Electricity Steve Regal
1987 - Michael Jordan beat Johnny Saint in Croydon to win the world lightweight title.
1987 - Yoshiaki Fujiwara & Kazuo Yamazaki beat Akira Maeda & Nobuhiko Takada to win the IWGP tag team titles in Fukuoka. Those were great matches'
1990 - Fit Finlay beat Steve Wright in Vienna, Austria to win the CWA middleweight title
1991 - The Grappler & Don Harrris beat Demolition Crush & Steve Doll to win the Pacific Northwest tag team titles i Seaside, OR
1993 - Silver King & El Texano beat Corazon de Leon (Chris Jericho) & Dandy in Tlalnepantla Mexico to win the WWA tag titles
1994 - Gedo & Jado & Hiromichi Fuyuki beat Bob Backlund & Warlord & Scott Putski in Saku to win the WAR six-man tag titles
2011 - Mickie James beat Winter in Huntsville, AL to win the TNA Knockouts title
--Regarding something said on the radio show on the Hulk Hogan vs. Jake Roberts question, besides doing an angle on TV that I think never aired, they did do one singles match, in 1987, in Winnipeg when Hogan was champion.
--WHAT DO YOU THINK OF WEDNESDAY'S UFC RATING?
Good because it kills what FS 1 is doing for everything else 34.9%
Bad because it shows UFC fans are skipping more and more shows 30.2%
Good because it's a valuable TV property 14.0%
Bad because it was less than half the prior show, so you can't use the station as an excuse 11.6%
Bad because with each station switch, UFC's audience has dropped 9.3%
WHO DO YOU EXPECT TO WIN THIS FIGHT?
Glover Teixeira 85.4%
Ryan Bader 14.6%
WHAT UPCOMING SHOW ARE YOU MOST INTERESTED IN?
UFC 12/28 Silva vs. Weidman 36.9%
UFC 11/16 GSP vs. Hendricks 18.6%
New Japan Tokyo Dome 14.0%
WWE Night of Champions 9.7%
WWE Survivor Series 7.5%
ROH Final Battle 5.0%
TNA Bound for Glory 4.7%
WWE Hell in a Cell 3.6%
POLL ON SMACKDOWN
35.7% of those responding didn't see the show
--In yesterday's update in the White vs Babcock match on Friday night's Titan Fighting Championship show, apparently the ref actually didn't stop the fight, but he let it go until the end of the round. The corner then stopped the match. (thanks to Michael Bernstein)
--There will be a wrestling fund raiser for Scoliosis on 9/15 in Cape Coral, FL featuring local wrestlers as well as former WWE and TNA names. Jake Roberts is the headliner. For more info go to https://www.facebook.com/events/497154280369477/
--Cung Le was shown on the screen during yesterday's LSU vs. Texas Christian football game. He was identified. There was no explanation why he was there and it didn't get any crowd reaction. (thanks to Daniel Thomason)
--On the Traditional Championship Wrestling TV show, not only was Joel Watts working as a referee, but James Beard (veteran Texas/Japan referee) was working there as well. Matt Hardy was also on their TV show (thanks to Ronda Farrar)
--Florida Underground Wrestling from last night in Tampa: Gus Money b Joey Epix, JB Cool b Wayne Van Dyke, MDK & Ushaka b Mitch Mitchell & Jeff Boom, Angel Santos b QT Marshall, Tokyo Monster Kahagas b Leo Gold, Matt Morgan b Kenneth Cameron, Lince Dorado & Mercedes Justice b Jesus DeLeon & La Rosa Negra, Jay Lethal b Maxwell Chicago, Jesse Sorenson & Nick Fame b JD Maverick & James Alexander-DQ, Jim Neidhart & Bruce Santee b Kennedy Kendrick & Deimos, The Grease b Michael Tarver in a Brass Knux on a pole match (thanks to Alan Wojcik)
--The movie "Kick Ass 2" which features Chuck Liddell, was No. 5 this past weekend at the Australian box office. Pain & Gain was No. 8 (thanks to James Stanios)
--SCW from last night in Poulsbo, WA: Demarcus Johnson b Sonico and Viento, Dave Hollenbeck & Von Hess b Sonny O'Mara & Bedlam, Iron Buddha II b Victor Price-DQ, Davey Hoffenmeister & Hoss Tull b Ian Bear & Zack Winters-DQ, Dale Houston & Mean Mark b Kaos James & Randy Zellers, Exile b Hot Hands Mendoza-SQ (thanks to Charles Short)
--British Championship Wrestling from Friday night in Kilmarnock, Scotland: Lionheart b Red Lightning, Kay Lee Ray & Liam Thomson b Jacob & Mark Coffey, Johnny Moss b Joe Coffey, BT Gunn & Steve Xavier b Jack Jester & Mikey Whiplash, Wolfgang b Doug Williams, Kit Fite b Brado (thanks to Chris Garvey)
--Heroes and Legends II from Friday night in Fort Wayne, IN: Chuck Weeden b Rampage, Eli McFly b Gabriel Grey, Russ Jones b Xavier Justice & Mike King, Darrell Jackson b GT Vega, Roderick Street b Shawn Cook, Kongo Kong & Awesome Kong b Joseph Schwartz & Randi West, Shane Douglas (with Tammy Sytch) b Troy Miller, Chris Masters b Kharn Alexander, Jake Omen & Scotty Young b Headbangers, Shane Helms b Mark Vandy, Dru Skullz b Tatanka-DQ
--Central States Wrestling from last night in Cahokia, IL: Bolt Brady b Ricky Starks, Aaron Solo b Raphael King, Deven Spade b Eric Allen, Chris Logan b Byron Wilcott, Jonathan Hampton b Joe Bruizer, Shane Fury b Shane Somers, Claudia del Solis b Jordynne Grace, Rob Conway b Evan Morris (thanks to Patrick Brandmeyer)
--Lucha Xtreme on Fresno TV last night: Elemento b Jesse Johnson, Marcus Eriks b Zero, Al Azar b Trap Johnson, JR Kratos b Brian Tannen. Upcoming tapings are 9/13 in Fresno at Blackbeard's Family Fun Center and 9/14 in Merced on 9/14 at the American Legion Post.
--More than 300 fans came to see the Shawn Michaels Experience, a Q&A yesterday in Waynesboro, VA with fans coming from 14 different states.