SAT. UPDATE: WWE PPV update, Mayweather-Alvarez note, Rock movie, Anderson contract note, Guest on Raw, Drug testing, a world title tournament where everyone was afraid to show up
By Dave Meltzer |
We're looking for your thoughts on last night's CMLL show as well as today's New Japan show, so you can leave a thumbs up, thumbs down or thumbs in the middle along with a best and worst match to
We're also looking for reports on today's WWE house show in Saginaw, MI (Daniel Bryan vs. Dean Ambrose, The Miz vs. Fandango, Seth Rollins & Roman Reigns vs. Prime Time Players) and London, ONT (Alberto Del Rio, Dolph Ziggler, Wyatt Family, Kofi Kingston, and Christian are advertised but we don't know if Christian will be there or not given his concussion). TNA also has its only weekend house show tonight in Joplin, MO a the Leggett and Platt Athletic Center with Bully Ray vs. Magnus vs. Austin Aries for the TNA title, James Storm vs. Christopher Daniels, Gunner vs. Frankie Kazarian, A.J. Styles vs. Knux, Gail Kim vs. ODB and Manik vs. Rockstar Spud for the X title.
We're also looking for reports on last night's WWE show in East Lansing, MI and Thursday's NXT tapings in Winter Park, FL.
Besides the Mayweather fight, World Series of Fighting will be on NBC Sports at 9 p.m. Eastern from Atlantic City, NJ
Georgi Karakhanyan vs., Waylon Lowe
Rolles Gracie vs. Derrick Melman
Elvis Mutapcic vs. Jessie Taylor in the middleweight tournament
Dave Branch vs. Danillo Villefort in the middleweight tournament
Andrei Arlovski vs. Mike Pyle
Sunday has WWE's Night of Champions on PPV from the Joe Louis Arena in Detroit.
Randy Orton vs. Daniel Bryan for WWE title
C.M. Punk vs. Curtis Axel & Paul Heyman in an elimination match
Alberto Del Rio vs. Rob Van Dam for the world title
Dean Ambrose vs. Dolph Ziggler for the U.S. title
A.J. Lee vs Brie Bella vs. Naomi vs. Natalya for the Divas title
Seth Rollins & Roman Reigns vs. winners of the preshow match in a tag title match
7:30 p.m. preshow tag match with Prime Time Players, Antonio Cesaro & Jack Swagger, Usos, Brodus Clay & Sweet T and 3MB.
Raw will be on Monday in The Miz's home town of Cleveland.
Smackdown and Main Event will be taped on Tuesday in Cincinnati.
A look at one of the biggest weeks of the year, with the stories behind all of the major shows including WWE Night of Champions, the biggest PPV in six years from boxing, TNA's next event, New Japan and other big shows is the lead in this week's Observer.
We look at all the different shows including a look at Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Canelo Alvarez, thoughts on the biggest boxing events of the generation, records already set, buy rate and match predictions and where things go from here.
We also look at all the other big shows, including direction of New Japan and TNA, what makes this Night of Champions far more intriguing than a usual B show even though it's a two match show. We run down the card as well.
We also look at wrestling being brought back into the Olympics, the story behind it first being nixed and it coming back, what had to change and why, as well as a look at Tokyo getting the 2020 games and how it affects pro wrestling in Japan.
In commemoration of the 80th anniversary of the debut of the world's longest lasting wrestling company of all-time, the former EMLL, now CMLL, we have a history feature.
We preview the Anniversary show and what led up to it, look at the careers of Atlantis, Ultimo Guerrero, Volador Jr. and La Sombra and how they got to one of the biggest matches in Mexican wrestling history. We look at how all of their careers have intertwined, the go-home match the week before the show, as well as the complete card.
We also go through a history of the anniversary show, from the beginning of the promotion, where the anniversary idea came from, the legends of Mexican history like El Santo, Blue Demon, Mil Mascaras, Gori Guerrero, Tarzan Lopez and more, as well as the stars from anniversary shows who went on to fame in the U.S. like Rito Romero, Blackie Guzman, Ruben Juarez, Raul Mata and Ray Mendoza.
We look at many of the biggest matches in the history of wrestling in Mexico, the original fame of the first Tiger Mask, big matches with 19-year-old Eddy Guerrero, the rise in fame of Perro Aguayo, 20-year old Negro Casas as a big star, attempts to bring in Ric Flair for big shows, the match where they changed the finish at the last minute, as well as a look at the wrestlers with the most anniversary sow main events.
We also look at Dwayne Johnson and WWE films, WWE's latest major hire, departure of head writer again, Cody Rhodes angle, Bray Wyatt's music, house show advertising, Jim Ross trivia, Middle East touring, Lanny Poffo talks Randy Savage and the Hall of Fame and who he thinks should induct Savage if he goes in, NXT wrestlers being used on tours, why Cena may be back on TV before January, Total Divas, a physical Hall of Fame, lots of Dolph Ziggler comments, behind the scenes at Total Divas, athletes who started from scratch in WWE system with no indie training, a look at NXT TV and Sami Zayn main events, plus all the weekend business notes as well as details from all the arena events.
We also look at this past week's UFC show from Brazil, as well as the ratings for that show as well as for Ultimate Fighter and a major reason few are talking about as part of the decline. We also have coverage of the show.
We also have an updated story on Matt Grice, the UFC fighter involved in an auto accident who is battling to recover after brain surgery.
We look at the debut of Keiji Muto's new Wrestle-1 show, as well as a look at the first show and the unique way it was promoted.
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--Hulk Hogan talks a number of subjects
--Hulk's version of why he went to TNA
--Hulk's version of his power in creative
--Hulk's thoughts on who the top young stars in wrestling are
--Hogan talks Rampage and Tito and ratings
--Hulk talks his all-time favorite wrestlers
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--Hulk says who he wishes he could work with today
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--UFC's 20th anniversary card coming together
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--Dana White talks Dominick Cruz
--What FS 1 told Dana White after the first night on the station
--Why Sean Sherk retired
--The change in Nevada's policy on marijuana
--Pay records for the UFC show in Boston
--Fighter asked what percentage of fighters use PED's
--Tons of new UFC matches announced
--Update on Ben Askren's contract situation
--A look at this week's Bellator show
--A look at the retirement of Matt Riddle
--Latest on Mayhem Miller
--Megumi Fujii's retirement match
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SATURDAY'S NEWS UPDATE
--The Dean Ambrose vs. Dolph Ziggler U.S. title match is official for tomorrow's PPV. It wasn't listed on the WWE web site, which caused a lot of speculation that it was off, because the final angle wasn't shot until last night's Smackdown show.
--As of this morning, there were 404 tickets on the secondary market for tonight's Mayweather vs. Alvarez show. They ranged from a low price of $1,498 up to $23,500 per ticket for third row ringside. Anything on the floor itself of the MGM Grand will cost you $10,000 and up.
--We will be having live coverage of the last two or three fights of tonight's boxing show on the site, with Konnan and I both scoring round-by-round.
--Dwayne Johnson on Twitter confirmed he's playing the lead in "Fall Guy," the first time he'll be in a WWE movie. He's not doing any $5 million budget movies.
--Steve Richards & Lisa Varon (Tara) vs. Carlito & Rosita has been added to the 11/9 House of Hardcore show that Tommy Dreamer is putting on at the Mid Hudson Civic Center in Poughkeepsie. The main event is Terry Funk & Tommy Dreamer vs. Lance Storm & X-Pac.
--Ken Anderson's contract is expiring soon and what happened on Impact could be them writing him off the show. If he does sign a new deal, then he'll come back as a babyface.
--Dusty Rhodes is currently scheduled to be on Raw Monday.
--The stuff on last night's Inside MMA TV show saying that if Georges St-Pierre were to test positive in VADA testing that it wouldn't be recognized by the Nevada State Athletic Commission is false. Keith Kizer confirmed to us today that if VADA comes up with a positive test for an illegal substance, that the commission would handle it exactly the same as if it happened on a commission test.
--Mick Foley will be appearing tonight doing a speaking tour in Montreal at 7 p.m. Coincidentally, Chris Jericho also plays tonight in Montreal at the Theatre Corona Virgil Mobile.
--Regarding the note in yesterday's update on the announcers on Impact, Mike Tenay and Taz watching the football game, it would have been impossible to call the matches the way they did while paying any attention to a football game. I had thought it was possible they could watch or glance during commercial breaks if it was a Raw or Smackdown taping, but when Impact is taped, the commercial breaks live are only about 20 seconds of real time since neither show is actually live and they try to minimize the time for the fans at the show since so much has to be taped. I believe that the game was on for a few minutes in the production truck, and there are multiple monitors that feed different things from the truck. But just the nature of that wrestling heavy show would have made that impossible without it being obvious neither guy was paying attention, and clearly from the match calls, they were.
--Last week's UFC show from Brazil airs at 6 p.m. tonight on FS 2, while The Ultimate Fighter episode two is replayed at 10 p.m. tonight.
--The Detroit News today had an article on Randy Orton promoting tomorrow's show. He said Daniel Bryan brings out the best in him and predicted a great match. He also noted that John Cena's injury may have played a part in why he's where he is. Story is at www.detroitnews.com
(thanks to Mike Kuzmuk and Jake Koch)
--Big Show was on Fox 2 in Detroit yesterday morning. Didn't say much but told he came off funny.
ON THIS DAY IN PRO WRESTLING HISTORY (thanks to Greame Cameron and Brian Hoops)
1937 - The National Wrestling Association scheduled a tournament that would be legit to crown a world heavyweight champion. John Pesek entered. Upon hearing this news, nobody else entered and he was awarded the title.
1956 - El Santo beat El Gladiador in Mexico City to win the Mexican national middleweight title
1963 - Espanto I beat Ruben Juarez in Monterrey to win the Mexican national light heavyweight title
1980 - Andre the Giant beat Hulk Hogan at the Capital Center in Landover, MD
1991 - Chaz Taylor beat Lightning Kid (Sean Waltman) to win the GWF light heavyweight title in Dallas
1993 - Jacques Rougeau Jr. & Pierre Karl Oulett, The Quebecers, beat Rick & Scott Steiner to win the WWF tag titles in New York
1993 - Tatanka beat Jerry Lawler to win the USWA title in Memphis, while Tommy Rich beat Jeff Jarrett to win the Southern title and the Dog Catchers beat The Moondogs to win the tag titles.
1993 - The SMW TV title changed hands twice at a taping in Oakwood, VA, as Robert Gibson beat Jimmy Del Rey and the Tony Anthony won it from Gibson
1998 - Pimpinela Escarlata beat La Parka in Nuevo Laredo to win the AAA heavyweight title
1999 - Chris Benoit beat Rick Steiner to win the WCW TV title in Winston-Salem, NC
WHAT DID YOU WATCH ON FRIDAY?
WHAT WAS THE BEST TV MATCH OF THE WEEK?
Orton vs. Goldust 31.1%
Bryan vs. Rollins 21.5%
Styles vs. Magnus 15.1%
Bully Ray vs. Anderson 9.6%
Daniel Bryan vs. Ambrose 9.6%
Kofi Kingston vs. Cesaro 6.8%
Kaz Hayashi & Shuji Kondo vs. Yuji Okabayashi & Daisuke Sekimoto 3.7%
Minoru Tanaka & Koji Kanemoto vs Ryoji Sai & Kohei Sato 0.5%
Bobby Roode vs. Magnus 0.5%
WILL MAYWEATHER VS. ALVAREZ TOP 1.75 MILLION BUYS?
POLL ON IMPACT:
27.9% of those responding didn't see the show
--Former WWE wrestler Giovanni Roselli will be on Nikki and Sara Live on MTV on Tuesday at 11 p.m.
--Former WWE wrestler John Hennigan (Morrison) had a short appearance on Adult Swim on the TV shot STSF-SD-SUV last week playing an undercover version of the robot SAM (thanks to Mike Millerick)
--At Mick Foley's show in Boston last night, he was asked if there were any pro wrestlers around who he thought would be the next Mick Foley. He at first didn't answer, but later said he thought Dean Ambrose or Bray Wyatt would be the next Mick Foley (thanks to Stephen Ross)
--ECWA on 9/21 in Carney's Point, NJ at the YMCA of Salem County
--Southern Illinois Championship Wrestling from today in Hillsdale, MO: DaMarius Jones b Brandon Espinosa, Tony Raze b El Sanchez, Jackson Whitechapel b Draco Vedradero, Gary Jackson b Brandon Gallagher-DQ, Ricky Cruz b Alexandre Rudolph-DQ, Ricky Cruz & Gary Jackson b Alexandre Rudolph & Brandon Gallagher (thanks to Patrick Brandmeyer)