THURS. UPDATE: Preview of Impact, White on why Glover gets shot, last night's TUF show, Ratings, Piper, HHH & Stephanie in commercial, Hall of Famer and Attitude Era star both looking for bookings, and birth of wrestling in Australia
By Dave Meltzer |
Impact tonight at 9 p.m. on Spike from Little Rock:
Manik vs. Chris Sabin for the X title
Joseph Park & Eric Young & ODB vs. Robbie E & Jessie Godderz & mystery female partner
Sting & Magnus & Samoa Joe vs. Knux & Garett Bischoff & Wes Brisco
The main segment on the show is going to be a confrontation between Hulk Hogan and Dixie Carter.
We are looking for live reports on tonight's show, in particular the second show of Impact that will be taped after the almost live show tonight.
We've got two new issues of the Observer on the site today. We've got a back issue talking about the Monday Night Wars and the UFC debut of Mark Coleman from 1996, as well as everything that was going on in pro wrestling around the world at the time.
The new issue out today looks at how WWE has marginalized so much of the roster and what the results have been, including a report on how SummerSlam did financially, a look back at how it did dating back to the early 90s, the push of Daniel Bryan, how business indicators for pro wrestling have changed, complete monthly business breakdown, the plight of Dolph Ziggler, Rob Van Dam, why Van Dam was used the way he was, and recent injury scares.
We also look at the Battleground show as it stands, and what title match is dead.
We also look back at the lessons of Mayweather vs. Alvarez, with a complete business rundown on the biggest combat sports event ever in the U.S. We look at early PPV projections, how much Mayweather is expected to make with all his revenue streams from the fight, the biggest PPVs in history, how Alvarez is being protected in Mexico, and why this event turned out as big as it did.
We also look at UFC 165, and the Jon Jones vs. Alexander Gustafsson instant classic fight. We examine the judging, the fight stats, look back at key moments in the fight, including what won Jones the fight. We look at the business indicators and the obstacles this show had. We've also got match-by-match coverage with poll results on the show, as well as who readers thought won the main event.
We've also got a look at ROH's latest attempt to stream their show live, what went wrong this time, a look at who has succeeded and failed when it comes to streaming iPPV shows, as well as a complete look at the Death Before Dishonor show in Philadelphia.
We also have more on the Jim Ross situation, timing of the release, why so few have publicly talked about it, and his future.
We also look at what happened with Dolph Ziggler, Steve Austin responds to questions about next year's WrestleMania, the original plan for him and how it has changed and a minor twist on all of that.
We also have more on the medical treatment Rey Mysterio is going through, his current condition and when his return is now targeted.
We also look at NXT, comments by Chris Jericho about the current angles, a release that went under the radar, reason behind other releases and business notes and highlights of all the weekend events.
We've also got a story on Angelo Savoldi, who was the oldest living pro wrestler when he passed away at the age of 99 this past week. We look at his time as a stockholder in the WWWF, how he broke into pro wrestling, where the Angelo Savoldi name came from, as well as his pro wrestling heyday in Oklahoma. We look at his most famous program with Danny Hodge, including the night Hodge's father stabbed Savoldi in 1960.
We also have a feature on Hall of Fame candidate Pedro Morales, a former WWA and WWWF champion who was honored this past week in Puerto Rico.
We also look at the WWC 40th anniversary show in Bayamon, including how the show was promoted, media coverage, how the debut of Sting went and match-by-match coverage.
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--One of the reasons CMLL fans boo La Sombra
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--New foreigners in AAA
--Brother of WWE performer debuts in Dragon Gate
--Former wrestler turned senator does a run in at a house show
--Update on Keiji Muto's Wrestle-1 promotion
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--Why the L.A. Park vs. Dr. Wagner Jr. mask match didn't take place and why it's been so difficult to put together
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--One of year's biggest indie shows and notes including a former member of the New York Yankees wrestling
--Pro wrestler battling illness for years wants to come back and do MMA and wrestle in the Olympics
--More on the arrest of former WWF wrestler Duke Droese
--Latest wrestling wedding
--Update on the Briscoes in ROH
--A look at upcoming ROH television
--More on the Dixie Carter/A.J. Styles angle
--A look at the first time Hulk Hogan was supposed to come to TNA
--More TNA departures
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--Worth of the Fertitta brothers and where they rank among the richest men in the U.S.
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--Nate Diaz says he can't fight on his next scheduled date because of high school reunion
--Former NCAA heavyweight runner-up signs with UFC
--A look at a ton of different TV shows Bellator will have on Spike in October
--Update on Fight Master's future
--Bellator PPV talk
--Update on Ben Askren's contract situation
--A look at Bellator's international deal
--Bellator talks doing shows outside North America and where they are targeting for next year
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WEDNESDAY'S NEWS UPDATE
--From Dana White on the decision to go with Glover Teixeira over Alexander Gustafsson in his next title match: "Jon wants to clean out the division. He wants to fight Glover and not back up the division, then fight Gustafsson next."
--The hoped for date for the fight is 2/1 in Newark, NJ, the day before the Super Bowl in East Rutherford, NJ. That will depend on Jones feeling 100%. The good news from his standpoint is he doesn't have a broken foot, as was feared, just a deep bone bruise.
--For Alexander Gustafsson, the idea is his next fight would be in Stockholm, Sweden early next year.
--I don't have numbers but tickets for the 12/28 UFC show are not selling at the rate of UFC 100. At this point, UFC 100 tickets were selling for three to four times face value on the secondary market. Right now there are 859 tickets at Stubhub, selling above normal value, but more like double.
--Tickets are available right now before they go on sale to the public with the code UFCSOCIAL at ticketmaster.
--I'd heavily recommend this week's episode of Ultimate Fighter. It was the best of the season in a lot of ways. It's been noted to me and there were fighters in interviews openly saying this, that the stuff with Dennis Hallman was edited in a way to make him look good, in the sense he instigated the confrontation with Edmond Tarverdyan which was thought he was brought in to cause problems and get Tarverdyan kicked off the show. While Ronda Rousey has been the heel in a lot of the stuff with Miesha Tate this season, a few people said that in this case, Tate, actually blamed on Bryan Caraway because they believed he brought in Hallman, was the heel here and Rousey was the peacemaker. Dana White apparently thought the whole thing was nuts by that point. But that wasn't the key part of the show, which was the portrayal of the fighters leading to the match. And the scary bad officiating at the end.
--Last night's show did 778,000 viewers, up significantly from last week.
--USA was No. 2 in last week's prime time ratings averaging 2.32 million viewers, behind ESPN at 3.26 million. Syfy was No. 17 at 1.09 million and Spike was No. 22 at 866,000. The three hours of Raw were No. 8, 10 and 11 last week. The third hour was No. 10 in the 18-49 demo.
--Anderson Silva and Chris Weidman were all over ESPN today to push their 12/28 fight.
--Last night, Roddy Piper was on It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia and Dana White played a hit man for a porn mob on "The League," both airing on FXX.
--Cee-Lo Green said last night on Jay Leno that he got his head tattooed because he liked Bam Bam Bigelow as a kid. (thanks to Jeff Beecher)
--Big Van Vader and son Jesse White (Jake Carter in WWE developmental) are both taking bookings through Bill Behrens at www.sbibookings.com
Vader is based in Denver and his son is currently based in Orlando, but is scheduled to move to Dallas.
--Chris Jericho's band Fozzy plays tonight in Dallas at the House of Blues, Friday night in San Antonio at Backstage Live, Saturday in Houston a the House of Blues and Sunday in Oklahoma City at the Chameleon Club.
ON THIS DAY IN PRO WRESTLING HISTORY (thanks to Graeme Cameron and Brian Hoops)
1885 - The birth of the modern form of pro wrestling in Australia took place 128 years ago today.when Clarence Whistler beat Professor William Miller in Melbourne. It's even more famous that Whistler died later that night from doing his party trick of swallowing of champagne glass from a perforated stomach lining.
1952 - El Santo beat Bobby Bonales to win the NWA world welterweight title
1964 - Hall of Fame candidate Billy Joyce beat Geoff Portz in Middleborough, England to win the British heavyweight title
1968 - In a battle of well known shooters, John Da Silva beat Gordon Nelson in Wellington, New Zealand to win the British Commonwealth title
1982 - Canek beat Riki Choshu to win the UWA world heavyweight title
1984 - Adrian Street beat Terry Taylor to win the Mid South TV title in Shreveport
1993 - Jado beat Yukihiro Kanemura in Hachioje, Japan to win the Caribbean title
1995 - The Gladiator (Mike Awesome) beat Hayabusa in Tokyo to win the FMW World Brass Knux title
1996 - Lioness Asuka beat Lola Gonzalez in Tokyo to win the TWF title
1999 - At the Unforgiven PPV show in Charlotte, HHH won the vacant WWF title in a six-way that also included Davey Boy Smith, Rock, Mankind, Big Show and Kane, plus D-Lo Brown beat Mark Henry to win the European title
STRONGEST OF THESE HALL OF FAME CANDIDATES
Gene & Ole Anderson 43.8%
The Assassins 19.7%
John Tolos 11.2%
Red Bastien 6.3%
Wilbur Snyder 6.0%
June Byers 3.3%
Pepper Gomez 1.9%
Dick Hutton 1.9%
Kinji Shibuya 1.9%
Rip Hawk 1.4%
Ciclon Negro 1.4%
Dutch Savage 1.1%
Brock Lesnar 18.3%
Curt Hennig 14.6%
Ivan Koloff 13.5%
Fabulous Moolah 9.6%
Owen Hart 8.1%
Pedro Morales 5.0%
Von Brauners with Saul Weingeroff 1.7%
Tim Woods 1.7%
Bob Armstrong 1.2%
Count Billy Varga 0.8%
Rock & Roll Express 17.8%
Jimmy Snuka 16.3%
Dick Murdoch 10.9%
Sgt. Slaughter 8.6%
Ken Patera 4.0%
Volk Han 2.7%
Masahiko Kimura 2.5%
A.J. Styles 2.1%
Mr. Wrestling II 1.3%
George Gordienko 0.8%
Gran Hamada 0.8%
Hiroshi Tanahashi 32.5%
L.A. Park 13.7%
Kensuke Sasaki 12.9%
Yuji Nagata 11.6%
Mike & Ben Sharpe 7.7%
Blue Panther 6.2%
Hector Garza 4.1%
Seiji Sakaguchi 3.1%
Cien Caras 3.1%
Kiyoshi Tamura 1.3%
Karloff Lagarde 1.0%
--Ministry of Slam Promotions on 11/19 to 11/21 are presenting a tour with Kevin Nash, Scott Hall and Sean Waltman with talk shows and Q&As in Glasgow, Manchester and London.. For more info go to www.MinistryofSlam.com/uktakeover
--Not just C.M. Punk, but also A.J. Lee attended yesterday's Chicago Cubs vs. Pittsburgh Pirates game in Chicago.
--Bellator weigh-ins for Friday night's show in Portland will be at the Sheraton Airport Hotel in Portland, OR at the St Helen's A room. Weigh-ins are open to the public. Joe Warren vs. Nick Kirk headlines the show. Former WWE Tough Enough participant Jeremiah Riggs (7-7) will be in a prelim match against Peter Aspinwall (3-3).
--AAA on Sunday at 5:30 p.m. at Gimnasio Municipal Jose Neri Santos in Ciudad Juarez with Cibernetico & La Parka vs. Silver King & El Texano Jr., plus The Psycho Circus vs. Fenix (back from Japan) & Drago &Aereo and Pimpinela Escarlata & Cassandro & Pagano vs. Angel Negro & Trimegistro & Crazy 33.
--There is also a Lucha Libre show for Border Impact Group in El Paso on Saturday at 8033 Alameda Ave. in El Paso.
--Ted DiBiase will be at The Bro Show at the Times Union Center in Albany, NY doing autographs and photos for $20
--Jim Duggan will be at the New York Comic Con at the Javits Center in New York from 10/10 to 10/13 at booth 2923
--Charles "The Godfather" Wright is looking at returning to wrestling full-time and getting booked. For booking info, contact Joe DeFalco at
--Fight Club OC on 10/3 at The Hangar at the Orange County Fair and Events Center has a night of boxing, MMA and Muay Thai. The promotion is working for its fourth consecutive sellout.
--Premier Wrestling on Sunday at the Nine Lives Club in Gilroy, CA at 7430 Monterey St. at 5 p.m. has Jeff Cobb (2-0) vs Brian Tannen (2-0) for the Premier title, Dave Dutra (2-1) vs. Oliver John (1-0) for the No. 1 contender position, Timothy Thatcher (1-0) vs. Dylan Drake (1-1), JR Kratos (1-2) vs. Kaimana (0-1), Nick Ruiz (1-1) vs. Sledge (1-1) and Marcus Lewis (0-1) vs. The Almighty Sheik (0-0). Tickets are $10 in advance at www.premierwrestling.com
--There is also going to be a web site get together at the Premier show.