THURS UPDATE: Cena update, UFC bonuses, Palhares in trouble, WWE former star in trouble again, last night's scorecards, Best WWF wrestler of all-time, iPPV Saturday
Thursday, 10 October 2013 14:19
By Dave Meltzer |
We're looking for reports on today's WWE show in Abu Dhabi. There is a crew there for three straight days for shows at the Zayed Sports City International Tennis Complex, the same arena they played three shows in last year.\
Impact airs on a one hour tape delay tonight from Tulsa at 9 p.m. Easter and Pacific time. No matches are announced for the show. We're looking for live reports if you're one of the people who attends as they will also be taping a second show for next Thursday, which is the go-home show for Bound for Glory.
We're also looking for reports on the NXT tapings tonight in Winter Park, FL. Alberto Del Rio and Christian will both be appearing at the tapings.
Spike also airs a documentary on the life of Frank Shamrock at 11 p.m., including a sit down with Ken where he explains why he didn't attend his father's funeral among other things. The documentary is taken from Frank Shamrock's autobiography which is really something worth reading. Very different from any of your wrestling or MMA bios, that's for sure.
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We've also got a double issue of the Observer that will be on the site today with the lead story talking about the return of John Cena and the questions it asks. We'll look at the current plans for Hell in a Cell, the injury to A.J. Lee, all the major questions that came up after Battleground, the fan reaction level, why so much went wrong and what questions it brings up about the current creative process.
We also look at gambling on WWE matches, an update on Rob Van Dam and Ricardo Rodriguez, along with full coverage of Battleground with match-by-match notes, star ratings and poll coverage from the show.
We also look at what happened with Dr. Wagner Jr., as well as what he said in public about AAA and what AAA said back.
We've got a note on the announced retirement of a Hall of Famer.
We've also got WWE and UFC touting their success and what does each company point to. We also note what former WWF star is gaining power behind the scenes, WWE being honored by the SLI, More on John Cena being sued, several new WWE signings, Darren Young talks his situation an why he did what he did, DVD ideas WWE is considering, Dusty Rhodes talks Hall of Fame, A look back at the end of Crockett Promotions, Details on new major WWE hire, two new WWE DVDs NXT, plus notes from all the house shows this past week.
We also have the follow up on last week's story on the wrestlers who have had the most four star matches. This week we look at the numbers when you figure in Japanese big show matches. Who were the top in-ring performers over the past 26 years and where do the stars of the current generation stand.
We also have a major feature this week on the life and times of Oregon wrestling legend Dutch Savage. We look at the career and life of the face of wrestling in that part of the country for much of the 70s, what he represented, his life before and after wrestling, how he came to Oregon, how he became a partner in the promotion and why he suddenly disappeared. It's a major feature on the world of pro wrestling in the Pacific Northwest and its unique characters, from Lonnie Mayne to Tony Borne to Buddy Rose to Bull Ramos to Roddy Piper to Jesse Ventura.
We look at one of the longest running television shows in U.S. history, why it ended, the make up of the crowds. We look at his most famous angles, the babyface turn, the coal miner's glove match, the documentary PBS made on him, practical jokes, his runs outside the Northwest including main event title challenges in San Francisco and Los Angeles, how he got into wrestling, Big Luke Brown of The Kentuckians.
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--NOAH's big show of the week and where the title picture is going
--What two major matches with KENTA against stars from other promotions are being set up
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--Behind the New Japan signing of Kota Ibushi
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--What is the unique nature of his contract
--More on the Okada vs. Tanahashi program
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--New Japan stars wrestle around the world
--First news on 2013 New Year's Eve show
--Two of the all-time biggest stars in Japan talking about a return
--Battle of the greatest junior heavyweights from four different eras
--Son of major pro wrestling star being pushed as potential Olympian
--Matt Hardy wedding
--Mil Mascaras movie
--World Triangle League tournament notes
--Update on Ted DiBiase Jr.
--Who nearly got the name Stone Cold
--NFL stars who were star wrestlers
--Notes on next major ROH show
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--Update on Hulk Hogan
--New TNA acquisition
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--Tons of new UFC fights
--Thoughts on this year's Super Bowl card
--Who did Jose Aldo want
--Behind the Ben Rothwell suspension and how it's strange
--Chael Sonnen talks angle with Wanderlei Silva
--Update on UFC lawsuit against the state of New York
--Lots of UFC injury updates
--Tons of new UFC matches
--New Spike MMA programming
--Bellator's last show and next show
--Bellator fighter out of retirement
--Lots of notes regarding weight cutting
--WWE head-to-head with major MMA events
--Notes on the Glory debut on Spike
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THURSDAY'S NEWS UPDATE
--Thanks to everyone with the nice comments on this week's issue and the story on Dutch Savage and Oregon wrestling history.
--Numbers for last night:
Prelims - 220,000 viewers (lowest ever for prelims except on Fuel)
Main show - 638,000 (low, but up from 9/4)
Ultimate Fighter - 725,000
--Dana White said he was going to take some kind of action against Rousimar Palhares for keeping the submission on Mike Pierce after the tap and the ref had to pull him off. The problem is this was the second time this has happened in UFC (a Tomasz Drwal fight in 2010) and he did the same in a BJJ match.
--Bonuses for last night were $50,000 each to Raphael Assuncao and T.J. Dillashaw for best match, and to Dong Hyun Kim for best knockout. Palhares would have gotten best submission, but as part of his punishment, UFC decided against giving him a bonus. His camp is saying he shouldn't get anymore punishment, since losing the $50,000 was a heavy financial blow.
--Regarding John Cena, his return is not to get injured by Alberto Del Rio and then disappear for several months. He is scheduled to wrestle at all the shows going forward that he is advertised on.
--Cena was on Dan LeBatard's ESPN 2 show today and asked what was the most shame he ever had in wrestling? He said losing to The Rock in Miami and then said, "There is a huge back story to the match. Things didn't go the way he wanted. Maybe in 20 years me and The Rock will get around a talbe and talk about it." (thanks to Chad Repak and Joe Zepnick)
--The Royal Rumble presale in Pittsburgh is doing very strong numbers. It may be sold out by Monday.
--The WWE's official word on Michael Seitz (Michael Hayes) is that he's taking a leave of absence for personal reasons. The story and its ramifications are in the current Observer. He was sent home by management about three weeks ago over allegedly drinking, which was something he was not allowed to do when it was agreed he could keep his job after the Mark Henry N word fiasco of a few years ago.
--They are already discounting tickets for the 11/21 TNA show at the Baltimore Arena. You can now get four seats for $40 that were $50 each a few weeks. (thanks to Matt Wright)
--The main event scorecards:
Richard Bertrand gave Shields rounds 1, 2 and 5. Guilhereme Bravo gave Maia rounds 1, 4 and 5. Sal D'Amato gave Shields rounds 2, 3 and 5.
--Bellator bantamweight champion Eduardo Dantas suffered an ankle injury and will be out of action for the rest of the year. Dantas faces the winner of the upcoming Joe Warren vs. Travis Marx fight in early 2014.
POLL ON SECOND EPISODE OF UFC PRIME TIME
79.1% of those responding didn't see the show. Whether good or bad, the number who didn't see it is far more important.
WHICH OF THESE EVENTS ARE YOU WATCHING THIS WEEK?
New Japan 21.0%
WHO WAS THE GREATEST IN-RING WRESTLER IN WWF HISTORY?
Shawn Michaels 36.7%
Bret Hart 21.1%
Kurt Angle 11.9%
Chris Benoit 9.7%
Randy Savage 6.1%
Ricky Steamboat 5.8%
Steve Austin 3.2%
Eddy Guerrero 2.4%
Chris Jericho 1.0%
Curt Hennig 0.8%
WHO WAS THE GREATEST IN-RING WRESTLER IN JAPANESE WRESTLING HISTORY?
Kenta Kobashi 34.6%
Mitsuharu Misawa 19.4%
Jushin Liger 11.2%
Chris Benoit 8.4%
Keiji Muto 7.7%
Manami Toyota 6.1%
Jumbo Tsuruta 4.0%
Hiroshi Tanahashi 3.5%
Toshiaki Kawada 2.8%
Tatsumi Fujinami 1.9%
Shinjiro Otani 0.5%
--Ultimate Fighter from last night will be reaplayed at 8 p.m. tonight, and the main card from last night from Brazil will be replayed at 10 p.m. tonight, both on FS 2.
--Lorenzo Fertitta and Garry Cook of UFC were headline speakers yesterday in London at the 6th annual Leaders Sports Summit.
--There will be a Family Wrestling Entertainment show Saturday night on iPPV fro Brooklyn at the St. Patrick's Gym on Ustream.com There will be a tournament with first round matches of Joey Ryan vs. Brian Kendrick, Sonjay Dutt vs. Petey Williams, Carlito vs. Tommy Dreamer, Wes Draven vs. Chris (Masters) Mordetzky, Jorge Santi vs. Rhett Titus, Paul London vs. Tony Nese, Ted DiBiase Jr. vs. Colt Cabana, John Hennigan (John Morrison) vs. Matt Morgan, and women's matches with Ivelisse Velez vs. Kasey Ray vs. Rosita, Cheerleader Melissa vs. Serena Deeb vs. Angelina Love, plus The Young Bucks and Trent Barreta wrestle and Karen Jarrett and Maryse appear, plus Jeff Jarrett will be doing an autograph signing at 6 p.m.
--A number of MMA names will be battling under Jiu Jitsu rules on 11/9 and 11/10 in Long Beach, CA at the Convention Center for the World Jiu Jitsu Expo. It will be on iPPV for $14.99 each day or $24.99 for both days, with matches starting at 1 p.m. Eastern time (10 a.m. local time). The big matches start at 4 p.m. local time and 7 p.m. Eastern time. Among the matches on 11/9 are Caio Terra vs. Nam Phan (UFC), Rafael Lovato vs. Matt Riddle (Bellator) Efrain Escudero (Bellator) vs. Phillipe Nover). All will be no gi matches. 11/10 has Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Miyao and Dean Lister vs. Roberto Cyborg, both no-gi matches.
--Collin Makamson at
is going to be giving a lecture on wrestlers in World War II in New Orleans in April. It will take place on April 2, 2014, which is Mania week, at Noon. He's also looking for help when it comes to names of wrestling stars who were in the war.
--In predictions last night, I was 4-1 (missing only the main event), Josh Nason was 3-2 while Mike Sempervive, Mike Sawyer, Oliver Copp and Todd Martin were 2-3. I've gone from just about last place after the first two months to tied for first. But with so many fights involving AKA guys in the next few months (the rule of thumb in predicting is that the more people you know, the more wrong you are on the ones you know), I'll probably fall back down.
--There is a giant list of names appearing at a wrestling convention on 11/9 in Queens at Terrace on the Park. Names appearing include Bruno Sammartino, Terry Funk, Mick Foley, Chris Jericho, DDP, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, Sean Waltman, Matt Hardy, Sid Vicious, Howard Finkel, Joey Styles, Debra McMichael, Savio Vega, Huracan Castillo Jr., Miguel Perez Jr., Jose Estrada Jr., D-Lo Brown, Matt Striker, 2 Cold Scorpio, Demolition, King Kong Bundy, Tito Santana, Bobby Heenan, Greg Valentine, Sgt. Slaughter, Ed Leslie, Meng, The Barbarian, Paul Orndorff, Bushwhacker Luke Williams, Jacques & Raymond Rougeau, Tammy Sytch, George Steele, Danny Davis, Steve Corino, Ashley Massaro, Rob Terry, Bobby Fulton and Davey O'Hannon.
ON THIS WAY IN PRO WRESTLING HISTORY (thanks to Graeme Cameron and Brian Hoops)
1937 - Ray Steele, a Hall of Famer, beat Brother Jonathan, the father of Don Leo Jonathan, before 10,000 fans in Sydney, Australia, with Vincent Lopez as referee.
1941 - Fred Atkins beat Pat Meehan in the tournament final in Sydney to win the Australian heavyweight title
1958 - Freddie Blassie & Bob Shipp beat Ray Gunkel & Nick Roberts (Baby Doll's father) to win the International tag team titles in Atlanta
1969 - Ray Gunkel & Buddy Fuller (Ron & Robert's father) beat The Assassins in Atlanta to win the Georgia tag team titles
1974 - Alan Pinfold came out of retirement to beat Ken Medlin in Sydney to win the WCW Australian title. It was 21 years after Pinfold had first won the title.
1977 - Mario Milano & Bugsy McGraw beat Butcher Brannigan & Killer Karl Krupp in Sydney to win the Austra-Asian tag title'
1978 - Angelo King Kong Mosca beat Mr. Wrestling II in Macon to win the Macon heavyweight title
1980 - The Fabulous Freebirds (Terry Gordy & Buddy Roberts) won a three-way over two of the most famous teams in area history over Mr Wrestling I & II and The Assassins (Jody Hamilton & Roger Smith) to become the Georgia tag team champions in Atlanta at the Omni
1982 - Nick Bockwinkel beat Otto Wanz in Chicago to regain the AWA title
1985 - Dump Matsumoto & Bull Nakano beat The Crush Gals to win the annual women's tag team tournament
1986 - Chigusa Nagayo & Yumiko Hotta beat Yukari Omori & Hisako Uno (Akira Hokuto) to win the annual women's tag team tournament
1988 - Hisako Uno & Mika Suzuki beat Mitsuko Nishiwaki & Yumiko Hotta to win the annual women's tag team tournament
1993 - La Diabolica beat Xochitl Hamada (Ayako's sister) to win the CMLL women's title in Mexico City
1993 - Villanos IV & V beat Silver King & El Texano to win the WWA tag titles in Naucalpan
1998 - Robbie Brookside beat Cannonball Grizzly (PN News) in Hannover to win the CWA IC title, and Rhino Richards (Rhino) & Joe E. Legend beat August Smisl & Rico de Cuba to win the CWA tag titles on the same show
--Gene LeBell, the former judo champion turned pro wrestler, turned wrestling announcer turned MMA legend turned Ronda Rousey trainer turned 81 yesterday.
--Jerry Lawler will be appearing Friday through Sunday at the new York Comic Con at booth 1278. He will be signing copies of the Headlocked comic book, taking photos and sketching. Online orders of the comic book are at www.headlocked.com
and anyone ordering between now and Sunday can get the books signing to Lawler for no additional charge.
--Ron Arneill, better known as Shawn Spears and sometimes Gavin Spears, in his latest go around with WWE, has been given the name Tyle Dillinger.
--There will be a pro wrestling Halloween Bash part on 10/25 at 7:30 p.m. at Buchser Middle School in Santa Clara, CA with Gangrel as the headliner. There will be a six-man tournament that includes Dave Dutra and Jeff Cobb for the Mission City Cup on the show.
--Gene Snitsky headlines CWE tonight in Neepawa, Manitoba at the Yellowhead Arena and tomorrow night in Winnipeg at the Caso Do Minho, followed by Saturday in Selkirk, Manitoba at Memorial Hall.
--Chaotic Wrestling tomorrow night in Woburn, MA at the Elks Lodge with Matt Taven vs. Biff Busick ad Mark Shurman vs. Todd Hanson.
--New England Championship Wrestling on 10/26 in Hyannis, MA at the Hyannis Youth & Community Center has Jeremy Prophet vs. Slyck Wagner Brown in a last man standing match.
--BAMMA 14 is 12/14 in Birmingham, England at the LG Arena featuring Mansour Barnaoui defending the lightweight title against former UFC fighter Colin Fletcher and Paul Daley vs Ramario Monoel Da Silva. Daley has a three-fight deal with the promotion. (thanks to Matthew Singh-Dosanjh)
--Bruno Sammartino will be doing an autograph signing on Saturday in Greensburg, PA from 2-4 p.m. at Joe's Sports Cards and Collectibles.
--Ted DiBiase and son Ted Jr. will be doing an autograph signing at Tommy Dreamer's 11/9 show in Poughkeepsie.