TUES UPDATE: Raw fallout, watch Cena train, AJ update, Rock's next film, watch Gustaffson x Jon Jones for free, Aries and his band, tons more

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Smackdown and Main Event are taped tonight in Kansas City.

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        We also look at gambling on WWE matches, an update on Rob Van Dam and Ricardo Rodriguez, along with full coverage of Battleground with match-by-match notes, star ratings and poll coverage from the show.
        We also look at what happened with Dr. Wagner Jr., as well as what he said in public about AAA and what AAA said back.
        We've got a note on the announced retirement of a Hall of Famer.
        We've also got WWE and UFC touting their success and what does each company point to.  We also note what former WWF star is gaining power behind the scenes, WWE being honored by the SLI, More on John Cena being sued, several new WWE signings, Darren Young talks his situation an why he did what he did, DVD ideas WWE is considering, Dusty Rhodes talks Hall of Fame, A look back at the end of Crockett Promotions, Details on new major WWE hire, two new WWE DVDs  NXT, plus notes from all the house shows this past week.
        We also have the follow up on last week's story on the wrestlers who have had the most four star matches.  This week we look at the numbers when you figure in Japanese big show matches.  Who were the top in-ring performers over the past 26 years and where do the stars of the current generation stand.
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        We also have results from all the major league arena events over the past week as well as a look at all the major television shows.
Also in this week's issue:
--Update on wrestling at Arena Mexico
--Tag team title top contender tournament
--Update on AAA's next big show
--Debut of the son of a major longtime star
--Notes on Dragon Gate's big show of the week
--Notes on  Wrestle-1's big show of the week
--Changes in booking in Wrestle-1
--Jeff Jarrett comes to Japan
--Newcomer to All Japan
--NOAH's big show of the week and where the title picture is going
--What two major matches with KENTA against stars from other promotions are being set up
--A look at the New Japan business right now
--New Japan business plans for the future
--Behind the New Japan signing of Kota Ibushi
--What other promotion tried to sign him
--What is the unique nature of his contract
--More on the Okada vs. Tanahashi program
--New matches added to the next PPV show
--The next two iPPV dates for New Japan
--New Japan stars wrestle around the world
--First news on 2013 New Year's Eve show
--Two of the all-time biggest stars in Japan talking about a return
--Battle of the greatest junior heavyweights from four different eras
--Son of major pro wrestling star being pushed as potential Olympian
--Matt Hardy wedding
--Mil Mascaras movie
--World Triangle League tournament notes
--Update on Ted DiBiase Jr.
--Who nearly got the name Stone Cold
--NFL stars who were star wrestlers
--Notes on next major ROH show
--Notes on weekend ROH show
--Update on Hulk Hogan
--New TNA acquisition
--Austin Aries talks TNA
--Mickie James talks TNA
--Tons of new UFC fights
--Thoughts on this year's Super Bowl card
--Who did Jose Aldo want
--Behind the Ben Rothwell suspension and how it's strange
--Chael Sonnen talks angle with Wanderlei Silva
--Update on UFC lawsuit against the state of New York
--Lots of UFC injury updates
--Tons of new UFC matches
--New Spike MMA programming
--Bellator's last show and next show
--Bellator fighter out of retirement
--Lots of notes regarding weight cutting
--Boxing ratings
--WWE head-to-head with major MMA events
--Notes on the Glory debut on Spike

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Today's News, Notes and Links

-- If you missed it, the video from Raw last night with John Cena doing heavy Olympic lifting just over a month after his triceps surgery, you can watch it here.

-- After Raw they did a spot where Daniel Bryan, to mock Randy Orton, asked the fans if they wanted to see an RKO. They all chanted "YES!" So he asked the referee in the ring, Chat Patton, if he wanted to see an RKO. Chad Patton chanted "YES YES YES!" So Daniel Bryan gave him what eyewitnesses described as the worst RKO in wrestling history. Bryan promptly got on the mic and apologized for what he admitted was the worst RKO in wrestling history.

-- AJ was cleared to return to the ring after suffering concussion symptoms following a bump into the post during her PPV match with Brie Bella.

-- If you missed Jon Jones vs. Alexander Gustaffson, Fox Sports 1 will re-air the entire UFC 165 PPV this coming Thursday night.

-- We have a great interview with Chris Daniels of TNA up on the main page talking tons of different topics, everything from where you buy Dumb and Dumber colorful tuxedos to Bound for Glory this weekend. Daniels is always an awesome guest.

-- Dave has a big article up on weight-cutting here.

-- Don't have results yet, but Mike Pierce was scheduled to undergo an MRI this morning to check on potential serious knee damage following his fight with Rousimar Palhares where Palhares held onto a heel hook way too long and was subsequently fired over it.

-- Rock's next project, a disaster film (about a natural disaster, not a disaster of a film) (one would hope), is written about here. It's called SAN ANDREAS and they note it has "franchise potential". Which I guess means it can't involve that big of a disaster.

-- The Wyatt Family are featured on the Survivor Series poster. Usually, who is on the poster has nothing to do with anything (R-Truth is the headliner on the Hell in a Cell poster and I'm not even sure he'll end up with a match on the PPV), but in this case my guess is they're going to do something involving Bray Wyatt and Kane on that show.

-- Speaking of Kane, he noted at ComicCon that See No Evil was originally going to shoot an immediate sequel, but then he heard nothing about it until less than a year ago.

-- ROH has a very good "Who is Adam Cole?" feature up here.

-- The ROH Death Before Dishonor DVD where Cole won the title is now up for sale here.

-- Young Bucks have been signed for the New Japan Super Junior Tag Team tournament starting at the end of this month.

-- DirecTV has an exclusive interview with Austin Aries here. They talk Bound for Glory, etc. He notes he has "a few music projects going on", including singing in a band.

-- More on Aries and his band here. You'll never guess whose songs he loved to Karaoke.

-- Interview with Angelina of Jersey Shore talking, among things, her time in TNA here.

-- Today in History with Brian Hoops:

1951 - Mae Young defeated Cora Combs to become the first NWA Florida Women's Champion in Tampa, Florida.

1967 - El Nazi defeated Mil Mascaras to win the Mexican Light-Heavyweight Title in Mexico City, Mexico.

1970 - Akio Kyo defeated Marie Vagnone for the WWWA World Title in Tokyo, Japan.

1971 - Ray Gunkel defeated Big John to win the Georgia TV Title in Atlanta.

1979 - Jerry Lawler defeated Bill Dundee in Memphis, Tennessee to win the Southern Heavyweight Title.

1981 - The Junkyard Dog & Mike George defeat The Samoans (Afa & Sika) to win the Mid-South Wrestling Tag Team Title in Jackson, Mississippi, ending the second reign for the Samoans.

1988 - Michael Hayes & Steve Cox defeated The Samoan Swat Team (Fatu & Samu) for the World Class Tag Team Title in Dallas, Texas. On the same show, Jeff Jarrett defeated Eric Embry for the World Class Light Heavyweight Title

1988 - Hurricane Castillo, Jr. & Miguelito Perez defeated Bobby Jaggers & Dan Kroffat in Bayamon, Puerto Rico for the WWC Caribbean Tag Team Title

1998 - X-Pac defeated D'Lo Brown for the WWF European Heavyweight Title in Chicago, Illinois

-- Classics on Demand update for the week:

Classics Rewind
Legends of Wrestling Roundtable: Managers
Monday Night Wars: Nitro 12-22-97
Monday Night Wars: Raw 12-22-97
Tuesday Night Titans 3-7-86

TV Classics
NWA's WCW on TBS 8-6-88
Monday Night Raw 4-26-99

The Big Event
Uncensored 1998

Classic is Jericho
Chris Jericho vs John Cena vs Big Show Raw 11-2-03
Steel Cage Match: Chris Jericho vs Gotch Gracie Raw 9-13-99
Chris Jericho vs Jeff Hardy Raw 2-10-03
Chris Jericho vs Shawn Michaels Judgement Day 2008
WCW World Television Championship: Stevie Ray (c) vs Chris Jericho 8-10-98

Eddie Guerrero
Eddie Guerrero & Chris Jericho vs Meng & The Barbarian Nitro 2-24-97
Eddie Guerrero vs Chris Jericho Thunder 1-15-98
Intercontinental Championship: Eddie Guerrero vs Chris Jericho vs X-Pac Smackdown 10-12-00
European Championship: Eddie Guerrero vs Chris Jericho Insurrextion 2000

-- Grapplers Quest is proud to announce the first "Europa Games" on Saturday, October 19, 2013 in Phoenix, Arizona at the Phoenix Convention Center located at 100 N Third Street. FightNow Television team will be recorded for tape delay event highlights plus airing to one million viewers monthly on YouTube at http://LiveGrappling.com Fighter Registration Savings End Wednesday, October 16th at 8:00 PM PST - fighters can register online at: http://bit.ly/GQPhoenix. All Men's and Women's Advanced Divisions Champions and All Absolute Divisions and $5,000 Cash divisions will be awarded the custom Championship Belts and the largest medallions in the sport of grappling sponsored by Torque and Super Body Care. The first Grapplers Quest tournament in Arizona will feature all divisions on Saturday, October 19 (doors open at 7:00 AM).

-- Ed and his crew talk the worst PPVs of all time

-- The weigh-in and pre-fight press conference for Bellator MMA will take place Thursday at 5:00 p.m. CST at Exhibit Hall A & C inside US Cellular Center (370 1st Ave E, Cedar Rapids, IA 52401). Bellator MMA will take place from the US Cellular Center on Friday, October 18th with the first fight taking place at 6:00 p.m. CST and streaming LIVE on Spike.com. The televised portion of the night will begin at 8:00 p.m. CST and will air LIVE on Spike TV. All participants from Friday night’s event will be on hand, as well as Bellator CEO & Chairman Bjorn Rebney. The event will be emceed by Bellator cage announcer Michael C. Williams and Bellator color commentator Jimmy Smith. As always the weigh-in is open to both the public and media.

-- Extreme Rising Pro Wrestling returns to live action Saturday, December 28th 2013 with their debut at The Arena located at the infamous corners of Swanson and Ritner in South Philadelphia. Doors open at 6pm, Bell time at 7pm. Tickets will go on sale Friday, October 25th at 12 noon eastern time at www.extremerising.com. There will be more information, talent confirmations, and matches to be announced soon.

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