WED. UPDATE: Death of Brazo and Barry Meyer, Update on Mysterio and Jim Ross, Miz movie, ROH angle gets mainstream play, Can Glory make it, Edge on set of Havenr
Wednesday, 16 October 2013 15:38
By Dave Meltzer |
The WWE starts its Mexico tour tonight with a show in Queretaro. We're looking for reports on the tour, which follows up tomorrow night in Guadalajara, Friday at Arena Ciudad in Mexico City and Saturday at Arena Monterrey.
Tons of UFC tonight on FS 1. UFC Tonight airs at 7 p.m. Eastern. The Velasquez vs. Dos Santos prime time show airs last week's episode at 8 p.m. and the final episode debuts at 8:30 p.m. At 9 p.m. is Ultimate Fighter, which if you didn't see it, you should, with the Jessamyn Duke vs. Raquel Pennington fight. The new episode airs at 10 p.m. tonight.
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We look at the latest changes in WWE, how Hell in a Cell currently stands, as well a how it changed over the past week.
We also have a look at the death of El Brazo, a part of the legendary Mexican trio of Los Brazos that helped popularize the genre, and was part of one of the largest and most influential wrestling families of all-time.
We look at his death, the family, the original Brazos, the night El Brazo shared in what was at that time the largest single night payoff in the history of Lucha Libre and why. We look at the split of Los Brazos and what he did after that point, as well as the transition into La Braza at the tail end of his career.
We also look at the Tanahashi vs. Okada feud, comparing it to notable feuds in wrestling history, as well as full coverage of the Kings of Pro Wrestling show. We run down the entire Kings of Pro Wrestling show with match-by-match converge with star ratings as well as poll results. We look at the post-match angle, the next iPPV lineup, the next full PPV lineup, the additions to the Bullet Club and the story behind the Gracies coming in.
We also look at how the match changed in the days before, as well as notes on business and the crowd.
We also have more on John Cena's return, Hulk Hogan's future, holdups of going to WWE, false advertising of talent, Bray Wyatt update, notes from a leaked memo to announcers, Dwayne Johnson plans for early next year, Update on Michael Hayes, Update on WWE gambling odds, was the Bryan vs. Orton finish planned in advance, Jim Ross opens up on wrestling booking, what can be learned from this year's PPV success, Ross' future business, Mysterio notes, Barrett notes, Bryan talks engagement and wedding, as well as the Yes chants.
We also look at some of HHH's latest directives about changes he wants in the company and what kind of people they are and aren't looking to sign right now. We look at others getting tryouts. We also have WWE business notes and highlights from all the weekend live events.
We also have a look at Frank & Ken Shamrock, what was in the Spike TV documentary as well as a lot that wasn't in it. We look behind the shooting, the rivalry, the heyday of Frank Shamrock, the building blocks of Strikeforce, his UFC title run, how Ken Shamrock started in pro wrestling the first time, how that led to the debut of MMA, how Frank Shamrock got started in fighting, how he became Frank Shamrock, where Karl Gotch fits into this, the split from Lion's Den and a potential fight between the brothers.
We've also got full coverage of the UFC's last show in Brazil, the Shields-Maia fight, the firing of Rousimar Palhares, and the business indicators.
We also look at the debut of Glory on Spike.
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--Preview of Bound for Glory
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--The future of GSP
--UFC star has to apologize in the latest in Twitter hi jinx
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--Details on the first Bellator PPV including the complete lineup for the show
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--Bellator champ out of action for a few months
--Business notes on last week's UFC show
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WEDNESDAY NEWS UPDATE
--Bryan and I will be back tonight talking Smackdown, Bound for Glory, Build to UFC 166, Ultimate Fighter and taking your questions that can be sent to
--Regarding the death last night of El Brazo, he passed away just after midnight, so early this morning technically, after spending about 60 straight hours in a diabetic coma. Hie most recent match was on 9/14 in Puebla.
--Barry Meyer, the promoter of Tuff N Uff, a Las Vegas promotion that started the career of Ronda Rousey, passed away yesterday of a suicide at the age of 43. His brother, Jeff Meyer, who worked with him on the promotion, said Barry had been suffering from extreme depression for a year.
--Rey Mysterio will not be wrestling on the Mexico tour that starts today as was originally planned. He's now hopeful of being back soon. He has been training in Orlando and will be going on the tour and may have a physical presence but he's not going to do a complete match. He's interviewed on the WWE web site and said he no thoughts of retiring, even with all his knee problems, because he believes they will eventually come up with a cure for arthritis. His left knee is already bone on bone with no cartilage left.
--Jim Ross on twitter noted that yesterday in New York he had bumped into Shane McMahon and noted having a BBQ dinner with Court Bauer.
--Mick Foley is in WWE studios today doing voice over work for an audio version of "A Most Mizerable Christmas" as well as doing a commercial shoot for the video game and an interview for an upcoming DVD release.
ON THIS DAY IN PRO WRESTLING HISTORY (thanks to Graeme Cameron and Brian Hoops)
1951 - Mae Young beat Cora Combs in Tampa to win the Florida women's title
1963 - Jim Breaks beat Melwyn Riss in London to win the British lightweight title
1964 - El Santo & Rayo de Jalisco beat Los Espantos to win the Mexican national tag team titles
1967 - Killer Kowalski & Skull Murphy beat Red Bastien & Mario Milano to win the IWA tag team titles
1976 - At a show in Greensboro, Tim Woods beat Angelo Mosca to win the Mid Atlantic TV title, Ric Flair beat Wahoo McDaniel to win the Mid Atlantis heavyweight title and Paul Jones beat Blackjack Mulligan to win the U.S. title
1976 - At a show in Bayamon, Eric the Red beat Carlos Colon to win the North American title and Higo Hamaguchi & Gordon Nelson beat Antonina Rocca & Miguel Perez to win the North American tag team titles
1981 - Les Thornton beat Jerry Brisco in Knoxville to win the NWA world jr. heavyweight title
1982 - Invader I beat Dory Funk Jr. in San Juan to win the Puerto Rican heavyweight title
1987 - Nelson Royal is awarded the NWA world jr. heavyweight title
1987 - The Sheepherders beat Brad Armstrong & Tim Horner to win the UWF tag team titles in Kansas City
1988 - Bart & Brad Batten beat Ron & Chicky Starr to win the WWC tag titles in Caguas, Puerto Rico
1988 - Ted DiBiase beat Randy Savage in Providence to win the King of the Ring tournament
1997 - Bam Bam Bigelow beat Shane Douglas to win the ECW title in Queens, NY
2000 - William Regal beat Al Snow to win the European title in Detroit
--WWE's Perkins Miller, the Executive Vice President of Digital Media, will be speaking on 11/13 and 11/14 at the Sports Media & Technology event at the Crowne Plaza in Times Square in New York. He will be joined by Jed Drake, the SVP and Executive Producer at ESPN and Mile Mulvihill, the SVP of Programming and Research at Fox Sports. For more info you can go to www.SportsMediaandTechnology.com
--"Christmas Bounty," a movie starring The Miz, debuts on ABC Family on 11/26, the Tuesday before Thanksgiving, at 7 p.m.
--Based on advertising, an NWO vs. DX theme will highlight November on WWE Classics on Demand. They are also currently airing the 1998 Uncensored PPV, with the exception of the Raven vs. DDP vs. Chris Benoit match, which was erased from the show. (thanks to Brian Hoops)
--Birthdays today include Justin Credible (40) and Kenny Omega (30).
--Sandor Szabo, a Hall of Famer, was 60 when he passed away on this day in 1966. Another Hall of Famer, Stu Hart, was 88 when he passed away ten years ago today. Rey Urbano, the orginal Great Kabooki, passed away on this date in 2007 at the age of 84 (his daughter Kristina was one of my best friends growing up in useless trivia) and NWF and WWF TV announcer Jack Reynolds was 71 when he passed away in 2008.
--Friday's Bellator show did an 18% gain in ratings, which is 99,000 viewers, who watched the show via DVR between Saturday and Monday nights.
WHAT WAS THE BEST OF THESE SHOWS?
New Japan Kings of Pro Wrestling 52.7%
UFC 165 22.2%
WWE Night of Champions 12.0%
CMLL 80th anniversary show 6.0%
WWE Battleground 3.6%
New Japan Destruction 3.6%
CAN GLORY BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE U.S. MARKET?
It's possible but unlikely 44.2%
No, it can't 31.5%
Yes it can 13.3%
50/50 chance 11.0%
WHO HAD THE BEST SHOW LAST WEEK?
WHAT NOVEMBER SHOW ARE YOU MOST INTERESTED IN?
WWE Survivor Series 55.1%
UFC St. Pierre vs. Hendricks 30.1%
New Japan Power Struggle 14.9%
WHAT SHOW THIS WEEK ARE YOU MOST INTERESTED IN?
UFC Velasquez vs. Dos Santos 62.8%
TNA Bound for Glory 31.4%
AAA Heroes Inmortales 3.1%
WHO WAS THE STAR OF RAW?
Rhodes Family 40.9%
Daniel Bryan 40.2%
Big Show 9.7%
Shawn Michaels 1.9%
Stephanie McMahon 1.6%
C.M. Punk 1.4%
Paul Heyman 1.2%
Randy Orton 0.8%
Alberto Del Rio 0.8%
POLL ON RAW
14.5% of those responding didn't see the show
--Jonathan D'Antoni wrote that he was at the New York Comic Con, and saw Sgt. Slaughter, Jerry Lawler, Jim Duggan, Brutus Beefcake, Greg Valentine, Tito Santana and Hulk Hogan. The funniest story was from the Haven panel. Everyone on the show except Adam Copeland was there. One of the actors said he asked Copeland to give him a Ric Flair chop at full strength. Copeland asked him if he really wanted that. He said Edge knocked the wind out of him and it was a few minutes before he could get it. Now it's a ritual for some of the cast for Copeland to chop them. They all said he was a very nice guy.
--Resurrection Fighting Alliance on 10/25 on AXS from Des Monies's Hy-Vee Hall. Adidas is creating pink gloves for the fighters on the show to support breast cancer awareness month. Mike Rhodes (5-1) vs. Alan Jouban (7-1) is the headliner.
--Chuck Langerman sent in some obscure wrestling trivia. Adolph Rupp, the legendary basketball coach at Kentucky, who Rupp Arena is named for, came from wrestling. He was the head wrestling coach at Marshalltown High School in Iowa, leading the team to the 1926 state championship in the sport.
--Universal Championship Wrestling on 11/2 in Owensboro, KY at the Next Level Indoor Sports Facility featuring Scott Steiner, Chris Masers, Rob Conway, Bill Dundee and Tammy Sytch. Steiner faces Shayne Maddox, Dundee faces Vic the Bruiser, Masters faces Shaun Maddox and Conway faces Chris Michaels.
--UFC's Jake Ellenberger will be signing autographs on 111/9 at Tough Mudder in San Diego. You can get 15% off registration to the event using the code UFCSanDiego15
--Traditional Championship Wrestling on 11/2 in Vicksburg, MS headlined by Tim Storm vs. Lance Hoyt (Archer)
--Traditional Championship Wrestling Last Stand on 11/16 in Fort Smith, AR at the Convention Center with Tommy Dreamer as the headliner.
--Big Time Wrestling on Friday in Newark, CA at the Pavilion with Brian Cage, Chris Masters, Almighty Sheik and Scott Steiner.
--CMLL from Monday night in Puebla before about 1,200 fans (horrible house for that city): Fuerza Chicana & Toro Bill Jr. b Guerrero Espacial & King Jaguar, Nitro & Espiritu Maligno & Arkangel de la Muerte b Starman & Leono & Millenium, Bobby Zavala & Okumura & Misterioso Jr. b Sagrado & Rey Cometa & Pegasso Extreme, Rush & Maximo & Angel de Oro b Vangelis & Kraneo & Tama Tonga, Mr. Niebla & Polvora & Rey Escorpion b Titan & Valiente & Mistico
--CMLL from last night in Guadalajara: Mr. Trueno & Rey Trueno b Metatron & Virgo, Oro Jr. & Starman & Sky Kid b Rafaga & Sadico & El Hijo del Signo, Amapola & Princesa Blanca & Princesa Sugei b Marcela & Silueta & Luna Magica, Psicosis & Olimpico & Kraneo b Brazo de Plata & Sagrado & El Hijo del Fantasma, Atlantis & Blue Panther & Mistico b Averno & Mephisto & Rey Escorpion-DQ (thanks to Steve "Dr. Lucha" Sims and Kris Zellner)
--AAW on Friday night in Berwyn, IL at the Eagles Club has a mixed tag team tournament with first round matches of Heidi Lovelace & Ryan Boz vs. Eddie Kingston & Alex Colon, Jimmy Jacobs & Silas Young vs. ACH & Matt Cage, Mark Andrews & Pete Dunn vs. Louis Lyndon & Marion Fontaine plus more. They also run 10/25 in Merrionette Park, IL at 115 Bourbon Street.
--AAA on Monday night in Leon: Mascarita Divina & Octagoncito b Mini Abismo Negro & Mini Psicosis, Fabi Apache & Pimpinela Escarlata b Mari Apache & Polvo de Estrellas, Psycho Circus b Devil Rocker & Machine Rocker & Soul Rocker, Electroshock & Octagon & La Parka b Parka Negra & Pentagon Jr. & Silver King
--Three generations team up on Friday night in Tijuana as Kiss (who was a California regular in the early 80s) & Kiss Jr. & Kiss III face Damien 666 & son Bestia 666 & Halloween on a show headlined by El Hijo del Santo & L.A. Park & Tinieblas Jr. vs. Dr Wagner Jr. & El Hijo del Solitario & Super Parka
--UIPW on 11/3 in Scarborough, ONT a the Rockpile East for a 2:30 p.m. show featuring Josh Alexander vs. Colin Delaney and Michael Elgin vs R.J. City
--One FC Total Domination airs live on Friday at 7 a.m. Eastern time on The Fight Network in Canada from the Singapore Indoor Stadium in Kallang, Singapore, the site of one of the Ric Flair vs. Harley Race world title changes. Bibiano Fernandez faces Soo Chul Kim in the main event. They will also air the 11/15 show from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia live.