WED. UPDATE: Notes for next week's WWE tapings, Knapp Funeral, Bellas on TV, UFC picks, Who should get next lightweight shot, UFC in Europe
Wednesday, 23 October 2013 15:52
By Dave Meltzer |
Main Event tonight on Ion at 8 p.m.
Goldust vs. Seth Rollins
Prime Time Players vs. Antonio Cesaro & Jack Swagger
Naomi & Cameron vs. Alicia Fox & Aksana
Dolph Ziggler vs. Damien Sandow
Tonight's episode of Ultimate Fighter is an all clips show. The feeling was they didn't want to buck the World Series. The regular show returns next Wednesday with the final male and female fight of the first round.
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Our lead story looks at while profits are high and business is overall good for UFC, there are some causes for concern in recent weeks. We look at the move to FS 1, ratings, PPV vs. boxing and what has 2013 in UFC shown about what does and doesn't work on PPV.
We also look back at UFC 166, how the top stars come out of the show, view polls on the close fights, the show as a whole and full match-by-match coverage.
We also look at TNA coming out of Bound for Glory, its biggest show of the year. Unlike with UFC, profits are not high and business is not good. We look at the changes on the horizon for 2014, how the new goals have to be different from the old goals, Hulk Hogan & Sting, TV tapings in Orlando, the PPV business, the house show business, injury updates and full coverage of Bound for Glory. We have poll results and star ratings on the show as well.
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We also update the 2014 PPV schedule and changes for the new year, sports executives on how UFC, WWE and boxing are doing, Nowinski talks why WWE was awarded, changes in this past week's Raw show, the HHH interview and what may have been clever and what was counterproductive, what WWE is looking for with prospective new talent, Daniel Bryan talks Hall of Fame, training with Shawn Michaels, wrestling Shawn Michaels, the best wrestler he ever wrestled against and the name will surprise you, favorite opponents and who he credits for getting him over. He also talks what he thinks about Total Divas.
Chael Sonnen talks a recently signed WWE wrestler who he trained with, as well as business notes and highlights from the Mexico and U.S. tours from this past week.
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WEDNESDAY'S NEWS UPDATE
--Bryan and I will be back tonight talking the latest wrestling news, previewing the busy weekend and answering e-mail questions that you can send to
--Vince McMahon is being advertised locally as appearing on Raw on Monday night in Orlando.
--Also being advertised for Tuesday night's Smackdown tapings is John Cena vs. Alberto Del Rio and Daniel Bryan vs. Randy Orton.
--The funeral for Calvin Knapp, who passed away earlier this week, will be tomorrow at 2 p.m. at the Anderson-Clayton Funeral Home in Terrell, TX. Knapp was a Dallas area pro wrestler since the early 90s. (thanks to David Farmer)
--UFC Tonight is listed at 7:30 p.m. on FS 1 because of World Series coverage at 7 p.m. Anderson Silva vs. Chael Sonnen is replayed at 8 p.m. before last week's TUF and this week's show.
--Sheamus is now completely clean-shaven.
--A note for Friday. The UFC weigh-ins are 11 a.m. Eastern time because the show is in the U.K. on Saturday.
--WWE return to Memphis on 3/10. Presale tickets are on sale now with the code word MEMPHIS. They don't go on sale to the public until January.
--Masaaki Mochizuki debuts for Evolve on the 11/16 and 11/17 shows in Queens and Brooklyn.
WHO DO YOU EXPECT TO WIN THIS FIGHT?
Lyoto Machida 75.9%
Mark Munoz 24.1%
WHO SHOULD GET THE PETTIS VS. THOMSON WINNER?
Gilbert Melendez 64.3%
TJ Grant 35.7%
WHO WAS THE STAR OF RAW?
Daniel Bryan 52.1%
Big Show 11.6%
Paul Heyman 11.1%
Shawn Michaels 8.2%
Big E Langston 7.3%
C.M. Punk 2.4%
Stephanie McMahon 2.2%
Bray Wyatt 1.8%
Randy Orton 0.4%
POLL ON RAW?
16.7% of those responding didn't see the show.
--Bellator announced some signings yesterday. Featherweight Julio Cesar Morceguinho Neves, who is 19, will debut with a 28-0 record with only 3 fights going the distance. Also signed from Brazil are Cleiton Duarte and Diego Marlon.
--Last week when we ran down those lists of the greatest champions in WWE history based on Topps, the lists were from surveys on the WWE web site in April. Mick Foley wrote the backs and cards on the series will include Bruno Sammartino, Trish Stratus and Paul Heyman for the first time ever.
--UFC's Garry Cook said that no date has been finalized, but they will have a show at the O2 Arena in London early next year. They are also looking at doing regular shows in Europe. Cook said the goal is 12-16 events a year, which would mostly be shows geared toward the market, with local prime time television and European fighters.
--Premier Wrestling on 12/15 at the Nine Lives Club in Gilroy, CA at 5 p.m. Tickets are only $10 if you purchase them on-line at www.premierwrestle.com
headlined by Jeff Cobb (3-0) vs. Oliver John (2-0). John is one of the best talents in the country who for some reason never made it on the big stage.
--Bret Hart, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Sean Waltman, Scott Steiner, Buff Bagwell, Virgil, Hernandez and Scott Norton will be at the Alamo City Comic Con in San Antonio this weekend. Bret Hart has a Q&A on Friday at 3 p.m. Nash, Hall & Waltman have a Q&A on Saturday at 1 p.m.
--Daniel Cormier, when asked on MMA Junkie radio about a fight with Alexander Gustafsson, said it's fine as long as it's in the U.S., and at the same time as the Jon Jones vs. Glover Teixeira fight. Since Gustafsson's next fight is scheduled for Europe, this is going to mean some compromises have to be made.
ON THIS DAY IN PRO WRESTLING HISTORY (thanks to Graeme Cameron and Brian Hoops)
1940 - Yvon Robert beat Lou Thesz for the Montreal version of the world heavyweight title
1956 - Ben & Mike Sharpe beat Bill & Ed Miller in a battle of giants to win the NWA world tag team titles
1958 - Buddy Rogers & Ronnie Etchison beat Gene Dubuque & Mike Valentino (who later became Baron Mikel Scicluna) in Oakland to win the NWA tag titles
1964 - Jim Barnett & Johnny Doyle started their run promoting the debut of World Championship Wrestling at Sydney Stadium in Australia and creating the golden age of Australian wrestling. For the next several years, the Australia promotion was the No. 1 wrestling company in the world, and highest paying promotion in the world. The first show was headlined by original world champion Killer Kowalski retaining his title against Domenic DeNucci. Kowalski would end up being the greatest heel ever in the country, and according to Barnett, DeNucci became the longest longtime draw during the WCW era.
1965 - Kurt & Skull Von Stroheim beat Sammy Steamboat & Ron Etchison in Tampa for the world tag team titles
1967 - The Sheik beat Gino Brito to win the International title in Montreal
1967 - Abdullah the Butcher & Dr. Jerry Graham beat John & Chris Tolos for the Canadian Open tag team titles in Vancouver
1967 - The Spoiler & Gary Hart beat Bruce Bernard & Mike Paidousis in Fort Worth to win the American tag team title
1970 - La Pantera Negra beat Dale Lewis in Los Angeles to win the United National title
1974 - Robert Fuller beat Jerry Lawler in Nashville to win the Southern title
1978 - Kengo Kimura & Hiro Sasaki beat Jose Rivera & Invader I in Caguas to win the WWC tag title
1981 - Ken Patera beat Jack Brisco in St. Louis to win the Missouri State title
1981 - La Fiera beat Lizmark to win the NWA welterweight title in Mexico City
1981 - El Satanico beat Solar to win the Mexican national middleweight title. Solar is still going strong 32 years later.
1982 - Ringo Mendoza beat El Satanico in Guadalajara to win the NWA light heavyweight title
1983 - Enrique Vera won a three-man tournament over Canek and Dos Caras to win the UWA heavyweight title
1985 - Jon Cortez beat Johnny Saint to win the world lightweight title
1988 - Jerry Lawler beat Kerry Von Erich in Memphis to win the USWA title
1989 - Soul Taker (Godfather) beat Jerry Lawler in Memphis to win the USWA title
1992 - Black Bart & Johnny Mantell beat The Ebony Experience (Stevie Ray & Booker T) to win the GWF tag titles in Dallas
1994 - Paul Roma & Paul Orndorff beat Marcus Bagwell & The Patriot (Del Wilkes) to win the WCW tag titles at Halloween Havoc in Detroit
1995 - Brian Christopher beat Jesse James Armstrong (Road Dogg) in Memphis to win the Southern title
1995 - Alundra Blayze beat Bertha Faye to win the WWF women's title
1996 - Carlos Colon beat Huracan Castillo Jr. to win the Universal title
1999 - Kenta Kobashi & Jun Akiyama beat Mitsuharu Misawa & Yoshinari Ogawa to win the All Japan world tag titles in Nagoya
2000 - Matt & Jeff Hardy beat Edge in a handicap match to win the WWF tag titles
2001 - The Dudleys beat the Hardys for the WCW tag titles in Omaha
2002 - A.J. Styles beat Syxx-Pac to win the TNA X title in Nashville
2004 - C.M. Punk beat A.J. Styles to win the IWA Mid South title in Highland, IN
--CMLL Monday in Puebla: Toro Bill Jr. & Ares el Guerrero b Paris & Black Tiger Sr., Ultimo Dragoncito & Electrico & Astral b Sauron & Pequeno Violencia & Pierrothito, Marcela & Goya Kong & Estrellita b Amapola & Princesa Blanca & Dallys la Caribena, Vangelis & El Terrible & Tama Tonga b Maximo & Titan & Rush,. Mistico & Valiente & Mascara Dorada b Dragon Rojo Jr. & Polvora & Rey Escorpion to retain the CMLL trios titles
--CMLL from last night in Guadalajara: Ebola & Demonio Maya b Idolo & Divino, Nitro & Espectrum & Hooligan b Leo & Esfinge & Back Metal, Tiger & Puma & Felino b Smaker & Triton & Gallo, Stuka Jr. & Blue Panther b Averno & Mephisto, Mistico & La Sombra & Mascara Dorada b Euforia & Gran Guerrero & Ultimo Guerrero
--CMLL Sunday in Guadalajara: Explosivo & Indigo b Relampago Azul & Tapatio, Angel del Mal & Demonio Rojo b Martin & Tony Escobedo, Acertijo & Infierno & Magnum b El Hijo del Javier Cruz & Leon Blanco & Virgo, Fuego & Gallo & Triton b Barbaro Cavernrio & Exterminador & Malefico, El Terrible & Tama Tonga b Rush & Titan (thanks to Steve "Dr. Lucha" Sims and Kris Zellner)
--The San Francisco Chronicle did a big article on Hoodslam, the Oakland based promotion, that runs the first Friday of every month.
--On Howard Stern's show today, Eric the Midget called in and said how Magnus was interested in dating Robin Quivers. Quivers saw a photo of him and seemed interested (thanks to Jon Zepnick)
--559 Fights take place on Friday night at The Island in Dinuba, CA featuring area fighters.
--New England Championship Wrestling on Saturday night in Hyannis, MA at the Youth & Community Center with Slyck Wagner Brown vs. Jeremy Prophet in a last man standing match.
--CZW on 11/2 has an iPPV from Flyers Skate Zone in Voorhees, NJ with Drew Gulak defending the CZW title against Chuck Taylor and BLK Out defending the tag titles against Azrieal & Bandido Jr.
--AAW on Friday night in Berwyn, IL at 115 Bourbon Street with Shane Hollister defending the title against Eddie Kingston plus the first round matches in a tag team tournament with Irish Airborne vs. Drew Gulak & Gran Akuma, Juntai Miller & Prince Ali vs. Dan Lawrence & Marcus Craine, Chuck Taylor & Johnny Gargano vs. Cedric Alexander & Caprice Coleman and Zero Gravity vs. Keith Walker & Lamar Titan. The tournament will end on 11/30 in Berwyn, IL.
--MMA Platinum Gloves has the first amateur MMA show on Long Island on Thursday night at the UpSky Hotel in Hauppauge, NY starting at 6 p.m. Tickets are on sale for this event at www.mmaplatinumgloves.com
and will air on www.gfl.tv