SUN. UPDATE: Hell in a Cell prview, Axel injury update, Cena injury note, WWE agreement with MMA company, TNA taping PPVs, What company will decline the most next year
Sunday, 27 October 2013 14:03
By Dave Meltzer |
We're looking for your thoughts today's WWE Hell in a Cell and Friday's New Japan iPPV, so you can leave a thumbs up, thumbs down or thumbs in the middle along with a best and worst match for each show to
*Daniel Bryan vs. Randy Orton with Shawn Michaels as referee for the vacant heavyweight title in a Hell in a Cell. Should be a great match. Of course we said that the past two months before the main event and were wrong each time. I can't really come up with a good reason for Bryan not to win this time out, so we'll see. With Vince McMahon advertised for Raw, his involvement in the finish would be no surprise, nor would a Big Show run-in be a surprise.
*C.M. Punk vs. Ryback & Paul Heyman in a Hell in a Cell - Punk's last promo seemed to indicate he'd probably lose the match, but that Heyman would take some form of a beating in the post-match. We'll see the improvement in Ryback if there is any since his first big match was at Hell in a Cell last year and it was okay, but nothing special.
*Alberto Del Rio vs. John Cena for the world title - I can't see Cena getting pinned, so this could be the screw job ending on the show. They've downplayed Damien Sandow and not talked much about Money in the Bank of late, so it's always possible that could be a factor here.
*Cody Rhodes & Goldust vs. Seth Rollins & Roman Reigns vs. Usos for the tag titles - It feels too early to change the title back, so I sense the Usos are here to protect Rollins & Reigns from losing their third straight match to the Rhodes Brothers. They also could change it back here, just feels early after a couple of weeks.
*A.J. Lee vs. Brie Bella for the Divas title - If Daniel Bryan wins, then Brie Bella should as well for the nice story. If not, it really doesn't matter what they do here. A.J. is the bigger star, but if she's going to turn at some time soon, it's better she doesn't have the title at the time and her loss starts that story.
*Los Matadores vs. Antonio Cesaro & Jack Swagger - Los Matadores should win here. So will Cesaro give Torito a giant swing after the match.
It should be a good show. Then again, so should have the prior two shows. Bryan vs. Orton and the tag title match by all rights should be very good. Punk vs. Ryback & Heyman won't be a classic, but should at least tell a story and have a lot of heat. Los Matadores should be a good match as well. The women's match will be the women's match, with Lee better than most on TV of late but that's faint praise. Cena vs. Del Rio should be good as well. With Michaels, Cena and the cell, the numbers should be way up from the past two months, or there are problems and they did damage last month.
Raw will be Monday night in Orlando. Vince McMahon is advertised for the show.
Smackdown is Tuesday night in Tampa. John Cena is advertised as wrestling Alberto Del Rio in a dark match on the show.
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Our lead story looks at while profits are high and business is overall good for UFC, there are some causes for concern in recent weeks. We look at the move to FS 1, ratings, PPV vs. boxing and what has 2013 in UFC shown about what does and doesn't work on PPV.
We also look back at UFC 166, how the top stars come out of the show, view polls on the close fights, the show as a whole and full match-by-match coverage.
We also look at TNA coming out of Bound for Glory, its biggest show of the year. Unlike with UFC, profits are not high and business is not good. We look at the changes on the horizon for 2014, how the new goals have to be different from the old goals, Hulk Hogan & Sting, TV tapings in Orlando, the PPV business, the house show business, injury updates and full coverage of Bound for Glory. We have poll results and star ratings on the show as well.
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Chael Sonnen talks a recently signed WWE wrestler who he trained with, as well as business notes and highlights from the Mexico and U.S. tours from this past week.
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SUNDAY'S NEWS UPDATE
--Bryan and I will be back tonight talking WWE Hell in a Cell as well as taking your e-mail questions to
--Curtis Axel blew out both of his hips in the tag team match on Raw on Monday night. It was described as a freak accident. That's why he's off the show today.
--John Cena, in an interview with the Miami Herald, said he would be wearing a protective compression sleeve on his elbow similar to what Dwayne Wade wears to decrease the impact on his elbow and minimize swelling.
--Before the smart money came in, the betting favorites were Orton, Cena, Punk, The Rhodes Family and Brie Bella. I don't consider any of that significant until and unless big swings take place right before the show starts that in the past has meant smart money coming in.
--There was a promotional agreement made between WWE and World Series of Fighting last night. Alberto Del Rio (called Albert Del Rio) was shown at last night's card in Coral Gables, FL, and they not just showed him, but mentioned the PPV tonight as well as mentioned that he would be facing John Cena.
--Dixie Carter announced that they would be taping a PPV show, or more than one, during the U.K. tour. The plans are for episodes of Impact to be taped on 1/30 in Glasgow, Scotland for airing later that night and another taping on 2/1 in London. There will be a taped PPV called the British Empire Cup on 1/31 in Manchester, England and Jokers Wild 2 will be taped on 2/2 in Birmingham, England. (thanks to Ian Hamilton)
--Mick Foley will be appearing on Wednesday at the Orlando Improv at 8 p.m.
--Ultimate Fighter is replayed on FS 1 tonight at 10 p.m. Eastern time. UFC 153 (Anderson Silva vs. Stephan Bonnar) will air tonight at 2 a.m Eastern and 11 p.m. Pacific on FS 1.
--Showtime's big announcement yesterday is a 12/7 show from the Barclays Center in Brooklyn with Zab Judah vs. Paulie Malignaggi and Devon Alexander vs. Shawn Porter, as well as Erislandy Lara vs. Austin Trout. Then on 12/14, they are running the Alamodome in San Antonio with Adrien Bronier vs. Marcos Maidana and Keith Thurman vs. Jesus Soto Karass.
--Myself, Josh Nason, Mike Sawyer and Todd Martin all went 4-0 yesterday in UFC picking. Oliver Copp and Mike Sempervive both went 3-1. Copp picked Phil Harris over John Lineker and Sempervive picked Jon Tuck over Norman Parke.
--Raw will be taped on 12/16 in Dallas.
POLL ON BELLATOR FROM FRIDAY NIGHT
65.6% of those responding didn't see the show
POLL ON SMACKDOWN FROM FRIDAY NIGHT
37.5% of those responding didn't see the show
HOW MANY NEW JAPAN SHOWS WILL YOU ORDER IN NOVEMBER?
3.0% said they would order the 11/9 PPV but are watching UFC instead that day.
WHAT COMPANY DO YOU SEE DECLINING IN INTEREST THE MOST NEXT YEAR?
All Japan 2.2%
New Japan 1.7%
Dragon Gate 0.2%
ON THIS DAY IN PRO WRESTLING HISTORY (thanks to Graeme Cameron and Brian Hoops)
1950 - Rito Romero beat Verne Gagne in Houston to win the Texas title
1960 - Mike DiBiase beat Pancho Lopez (Lorenzo Parente) in Amarillo to win the North American title
1961 - Sputnik Monroe beat Dory Dixon in Houston to win the Texas title
1964 - Fred Blassie & Mr. Moto beat The Destroyer & Hard Boiled Haggery in Long Beach to win the WWA tag titles
1966 - Tony Borne & Mr. Fuji beat Rene Goulet & Shag Thomas to win the Pacific Northwest tag titles
1967 - The Hangman beat Sonny Myers in St. Joseph to win the Central States title
1971 - Ed Francis beat Lonnie Mayne in Honolulu to win the Hawaiian title and Sweet Daddy Siki beat Sammy Steamboat to win the North American title
1973 - Dutch Savage & Jimmy Snuka beat Bull Ramos & Ripper Collins to win the Pacific Northwest tag team title
1973 - Robert Fuller & Bob Armstrong beat Stan Vachon & Bobby Duncum to win the Georgia tag team tile
1977 - Dr. X & Ciclon Negro beat Porkchop Cash & Ray Candy to win the U.S. tag team title
1978 - Butcher Brannigan & Ox Baker beat Larry O'Day & Mario Milano in Sydney to win the Austra Asian tag team titles
1978 - Stan Hansen & Ole Anderson beat Tommy Rich & Mr. Wrestling II in Atlanta to win the Georgia tag team titles
1980 - Larry Latham & Bill Irwin beat Tommy & Eddie Gilbert in Memphis to win the Southern tag team titles
1984 - Chris Adams & Gino Hernandez & Jake Roberts beat Kerry & Mike Von Erich & Bobby Fulton to win the NWA world six man title sin Dallas
1986 - Big Bubba (Fred "Typhoon" Ottman) beat Tracy Smothers in Memphis to win the Mid American title
1987 - Rick Martel & Tito Santana beat Bret Hart & Jim Neidhart in Syracuse to win the WWF tag titles
1990 - Stan Hansen beat Lex Luger in Chicago to win the U.S. title
1991 - Brian Pillman beat Richard Morton in a tournament to become the first WCW light heavyweight champion in Chattanooga
1992 - Shawn Michaels beat Davey Boy Smith in Terre Haute, IN to win the IC title
1996 - Kevin Nash & Scott Hall beat Harlem Heat to win the WCW tag titles and Dean Malenko beat Rey Misterio Jr. to win the WCW cruiserweight title in Las Vegas
1996 - Eagle Sawai beat Karula (Harley Saito) to win the LLPW title
2002 - Great Muta beat Genichiro Tenryu to win the Triple Crown in Tokyo
2003 - Chris Jericho beat Rob Van Dam to win the IC title and then Van Dam won the title back later in the same episode of Raw from Fayetteville
--Resurrection Fighting Alliance returns on 11/22 in Denver headlined by Matt Manzanares vs. Zach Makovsky for the flyweight title and Alvin Robinson vs. Raoni Bracelos and Chinzo Machida (Lyoto's brother) vs. Brian Wood. The show will air live on AXS TV.
--Pro Wrestling Bushido on 11/10 in Stockton, CA at the La Jamaica Hall headlined by Sir Samurai vs. Johnny Goodtime and Dylan Drake vs. Bobby Hart. Also coming into town are Rich Swann, TJ Perkins, Brian Cage, Willie Mack and Roderick Strong.
--Central States Wrestling from last night in Cahokia, IL: Eric Allen b Marcello Spade, Ricky Stars won three way over Jojo Bravo and Matt Fontaine, Jeremy Hadley b Damien Tyler, Deven Spade b Jimmy D in a barbed wire match, Shane Fury b Bolt Brady, Shane somers b Evan Morris to win the Central States title
--Dynamo Pro Wrestling from last night in Pittsfield, IL: Jackal b Brandon Gallagher, Shawn Santel b Jake Parnell, Alexandre Rudolph b Dash Rando, Shorty Biggs & Outtkast b Ken Kasa & Dave Vaughn, Ricky Cruz b Dingo, Jordynne Grace b Lucy Mendez, Jake Dirden b Dan Walsh (thanks to Patrick Brandmeyer)
--Southern Fried Championship Wrestling from last night in Monroe,, GA before 175 fans: Leatherface DDQ Luke Gallows in a falls count anywhere match, Lobo b Maul, Jacob Blackman d Moose, Centerfolds b Rejects, Pandora & Nina Simoone b D'Arcy Dixon & Amanda Rodriguez, The Nelms DCOR Tommy Rich & Richie Rich, Blade b Demarko Knight, Styck Sypher & Fred Yehi b Bran Blaze & De La Vega, Vic Roz & Roscoe Ray & Cody Jack b The Nelms & Blade. Next show is 11/9 in Loganville, GA with the Smothers Family and 11/23 in Monroe with the Rich's vs. The Nelms in a hair vs. hair Southern street fight.
--Grown Ups 2 was No. 6 at the Australian box office this past weekend.
--Lucha Xtreme TV from last night in Fresno, CA: Jeff Cobb b John Redito, Stu Sharpe b Zero, Wiseguy b Marcus Eriks, Johnny Plinko b Brandon Pinon (thanks to Jon Southerland)
--Platinum Championship Wrestling Halloween special on Thursday in Porterdale, GA at 2001 Main Street.
--PWX on 11/2 in Pittsburgh at the Wrestleplex.
--UPW Monster's Brawl from last night in Akron, NY: Chris Telian b Ice and Brian McDowell, McCloud Brothers b Easy Riders, Barry Hardy & Chip Stetson b Order & Justice, Kevin Dunn over Cheech, Gabriel Saint and Evan McCloud, Zema Ion b Marc Hauss, Colin Delaney b Pepper Parks, Rochester Wrecking Crew b Caribbean Connection, Shark Boy b Cloudy, Ron Falco b Blackjack Phoenix in an Akron street fight, Cherry Bomb b La Diva in a costume match, Vader b Nick Ando. Next show is 11/19 in Rochester, NY at the Eagles Club. (thanks to Todd Brantley)
--The 11/2 Great Canadian Wrestling show scheduled for Oshawa, ONT was canceled. If you purchased advanced tickets, e-mail www.GCWE.ca
for information on exchanging tickets for the 12/27 show.