SUN. UPDATE: Del Rosario update, Hodge coaching, Rock on Walker, Gotch's last loss, Hogan's first big win, WWWF title change, MMA scoring, DDP to Europe
Sunday, 01 December 2013 15:32
By Dave Meltzer |
No major wrestling events today. Total Divas has a new episode at 10 p.m. on E!
Last night's UFC show will be replayed starting at 8:30 p.m. Eastern time on FS 1.
Monday is Raw from Oklahoma City. Locally they are advertising "The McMahons and HHH," for whatever that means, and it may not mean a thing given the last time Vince McMahon was advertised for Raw he didn't appear.
There is a New Japan iPPV from Hakata Star Lanes in Fukuoka on Tuesday morning/Monday night at 4:30 a.m. Eastern time and 1:30 a.m. Pacific time at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/njpw1972
Yuji Nagata & Yohei Komatsu & Sho Tanaka vs. Toru Yano & Takashi Iizuka & Jado
Bushi & Kushida vs. Rob Conway & Jax Dane
Manabu Nakanishi & Strongman & Jushin Liger & Tiger Mask vs. Lance Archer & Davey Boy Smith Jr. & Taka Michinoku & Taichi
Hiroshi Tanahashi & Captain New Japan vs. Kazuchika Okada & Yoshi-Hashi
Tetsuya Naito & La Sombra vs. Minoru Suzuki & Shelton Benjamin
Hiroyoshi Tenzan & Satoshi Kojima vs. Karl Anderson & Doc Gallows
Shinsuke Nakamura & Tomohiro Ishii vs. Prince Devitt & Bad Luck Fale
Smackdown and Main Event will be taped on Tuesday in Tulsa.
TNA Impact will be taping the Final Resolution show (for 12/19) on Tuesday night in Orlando with Bobby Roode vs. Kurt Angle 2/3 falls and Jeff Hardy vs. Magnus.
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A coverage of where WWE stands coming out of Survivor Series, as well as part one of a two-part series on the life and times of Mad Dog Vachon lead off this week's double issue of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter. The issue is available on the site today.
We look at the fame of Vachon, his extensive career title history from all over the world, and the legends of wrestling in Montreal. We look at why Vachon was so famous mainstream and the major political leaders who spoke this past week about his death.
We look at Mad Dog the wrestler, Mad Dog the fighter, Mad Dog the Olympian and more.
We look at his start in wrestling, the start of the career of brother Paul the Butcher, one of the great practical jokes in the history of the Calgary territory, Mad Dog and Gorgeous George, Mad Dog in Hawaii and where he got the shaved head from. We also look at the origin of the Mad Dog Vachon name, his multiple runs as AWA champion, his matches as AWA champion against rival world champions including the night the AWA champion faced the WWWF champion on an NWA show.
We also look at his career in Montreal, his early tours of Japan, and one of the most famous angles in AWA history setting up the Mad Dog vs. Crusher feud. We also look at the night Mad Dog set the North American gate record for pro wrestling, and the night he broke that card.
We also look at the Vachons vs. LeDucs feud, the heyday of Grand Prix Wrestling and the biggest wrestling match ever in Quebec and how it was actually a late replacement idea, and how Mad Dog sold out Jarry Park.
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SUNDAY'S NEWS UPDATE
--Shane Del Rosario has been taken off life support according to training partner Erik Apple and has been able to breathe on his own, and squeezed his mother's hand on his own. There are signs of brain activity at this point. Del Rosario was not expected to live past Friday.
--Ronda Rousey will be the guest on Jimmy Kimmel live tomorrow night. Hopefully she does a better job than she did last night. (thanks to Jon Southerland)
--Dwayne Johnson wrote on twitter about the death of Paul Walker saying, "All my strength, love and faith to the Walker family during his heartbreaking time. We find our strength in his light. Love you brother." Walker is in the recently completed Fast and Furious 7 filming.
--Gene LeBell will be a guest Monday on the MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani
--Gerald Brisco was scouting at today's wrestling show in Madison Square Garden that featured a number of MMA fighters doing wrestling matches as well as a lot of major college teams and local area teams.
--Danny Hodge was the honorary bench coach for the University of Oklahoma at today's Oklahoma vs. Oklahoma State wrestling dual meet. Oklahoma was down 15-3 but came back to win 16-15.
--Christy Hemme is featured in the new issues of OK Magazine and Star Magazine.
--In picks for last night, I went 4-1, as did Todd Martin, Mike Sempervive and Josh Nason. I missed the main event. Sempervive and Martin were the only ones who picked Diaz over Maynard. Oliver Copp was 3-2 and Mike Sawyer was 2-3.
ON THIS DAY IN PRO WRESTLING HISTORY (thanks to Graeme Cameron and Brian Hoops)
1906 - In one of the biggest matches of all-time, Fred Beel beat Frank Gotch in New Orleans to win the American heavyweight title, which may have been Gotch's last defeat
1938 - Mildred Burke beat Betty Nichols in Columbus, OH to win the World women's title
1941 - Count Billy Varga beat Wild Red Berry in Hollywood, CA, to win the world light heavyweight title
1952 - Gory Guerrero & Cyclone Anaya won a tournament in Fort Worth to become Texas tag team champions
1958 - Pepper Gomez & Rito Romero beat The Fabulous Kangaroos, Al Costello & Roy Heffernan, to win the NWA world tag titles in Fort Worth
1961 - Fritz Von Erich beat Dick the Bruiser in Detroit to win the U.S. title
1961 - The Assassin beat Don McIntyre & Ray Gunkel to win the Southern tag team titles in Atlanta
1965 - Ken Lucas beat Danny McShain in Mobile to win the Gulf Coast title
1966 - Ray Stevens beat Spyros Arion in Brisbane to win the IWA title
1970 - Dusty Rhodes beat Jose Lothario in Tampa to win the Florida Brass Knux title
1972 - Jimmy Golden & Dennis McCord (Austin Idol) beat Brute Bernard & Gary Hart in a tournament final to become the first Austra Asian tag champs
1972 - Victor Rivera beat Ernie Ladd in Los Angeles to win the Americas title
1972 - Bobo Brazil beat Kintaro Oki in Yokohama to win the vacant International heavyweight title
1973 - Stan Stasiak beat Pedro Morales in Philadelphia to win the WWWF title
1977 - Mike George & Scott Casey beat Crusher Blackwell & Buck Robley in Kansas City to win the NWA tag titles
1978 - King Curtis Iaukea beat Bulldog Brower in Sydney to win the WCW Brass Knux title
1978 - George Gulas & Bobby Eaton & Arvil Hutto won a tournament for the NWA six man title in Huntsville, AL
1978 - Kevin Sullivan & Ken Lucas beat Dennis Condrey & Phil Hickerson in Knoxville to win the Southeastern tag team titles
1978 - Big Daddy Ritter (Junkyard Dog) beat Alo Leilani in Calgary to win the North American title
1979 - Sterling Golden (Hulk Hogan) beat Dick Slater in Knoxville to win the Southeastern title
1983 - Terry Taylor beat Buddy Landel in Lexington to win the Mid American title
1986 - Al Madril & Brian Adias beat Lance Von Erich & Dingo Warrior (Ultimate Warrior) in Fort Worth to win the World Class tag titles and Tony Atlas beat Crusher Yurkov (Bam Bam Bigelow) to win the World Class TV title
1989 - Robert Fuller & Brian Lee beat Jeff Jarrett & Matt Borne in a tournament in Dallas to win the vacant USWA tag titles
1992 - Dynamite Kansai beat Cutie Suzuki in a tournament final in Tokyo to win the JWP title
1995 - El Samurai beat Sabu in Niigata to win the UWA light heavyweight title
1995 - Negro Casas beat El Hijo del Santo in a tournament final in Mexico City to win the NWA welterweight title
1996 - Manami Toyota & Rie Tamada beat Tomoko Watanabe & Kumiko Maekawa to win the All Japan women annual tag team tournament
2000 - American Dragon (Bryan Danielson) & Spanky (Brian Kendrick) beat Kevin Fertig & Trash to win the Southern tag team titles in Manila, AR
2001 - Carly Colon (Carlito) beat Ray Gonzalez to win the Universal title in Caguas
2005 - The Miz beat Mike Knox to become the first Deep South champion in McDonough, GA
--On today's Pro Bowlers Association show on ESPN, Pete Weber, a big wrestling fan who often imitates RVD, was bowling and there were signs in the audience that read, "If Weber loses, We Riot!!" He did lose, by the way. Every day he threw a strike they played HHH's music (thanks to Steve Handley)
WHO WAS THE BEST OF THESE HALL OF FAMERS?
Andre the Giant 58.1%
Nick Bockwinkel 41.9%
WHAT MMA SCORING SYSTEM DO YOU THINK IS THE BEST?
Just pick the winners at the end, no point system 35.3%
Current system, but adding half points 29.8%
Current system 12.6%
Using a series of points like in wrestling, judo and Jiu Jitsu 11.6%
Current system but allowing judges to overrule their point totals if they choose 10.7%
IN THE MODERN ERA, WHAT IS THE BEST WRESTLING ARENA FOR ATMOSPHERE AND HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE?
Madison Square Garden 42.7%
All-State Arena in Chicago 12.7%
Tokyo Dome 11.3%
Korakuen Hall 8.4%
Budokan Hall 8.2%
ECW Arena 5.0%
ACC in Toronto 4.8%
Arena Mexico 2.2%
Bell Centre 2.2%
St. Louis Scottrade Arena 1.4%
Sumo Hall in Tokyo 0.7%
Osaka Castle Hall 0.5%
POLL ON SMACKDOWN
37.6% of those responding didn't see the show
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS REGARDING THE RATINGS OF ULTIMATE FIGHTER?
Show has gone on too long, they were lucky to have the interest they had with this season 50.7%
Being on a new station hurt ratings 19.5%
Numbers were good when you factor in DVR viewing, repeat viewing and West Coast start time 9.4%
The women were fine but guys hurt the show 8.4%
Show was hurt because Rousey hurt her star power and Tate wasn't likeable 6.4%
Fighters this season were boring and hurt ratings 2.2%
Having women on the show hurt it 1.7%
Coaches weren't interesting this season 1.7%
--Adam Pearce is scheduled to be a guest trainer this week at the WWE Performance Center.
--In the discussion on Dennis Rodman on last night's radio show, his talks were in 1997, where WCW took the deal from WWF, not 1996 as we said on the show.
--I'm not sure what this means, but of the fighters last night, the ones who gained the most twitter followers after the fight were:
1. Julianna Pena 2,792
2. Nate Diaz 1,538
3. Raquel Pennington 1,462
4. Jessamyn Duke 1,439
5. Chris Holdsworth 977
6. Roxanne Modafferi 909
7. Davey Grant 798
8. Jessica Rakoczy 554
9. Peggy Morgan 439
10. Gray Maynard 256
--Former UFC fighter and big time wrestling fan Ulysses Gomez (9-4) has his first fight since being dropped by UFC on 12/7 in Newcastle, England against Cage Warriors champion Neil Seery (13-9).
--DDP will have a talk show tour of the U.K. with shows on these dates
3/2 in London at the Leicester Square Theater
3/3 in Birmingham at The Glee Club
3/4 in Cardiff, Wales at The Glee Club
3/5 in Manchester at The Comedy Store
3/6 in Glasgow at The Garage
3/9 in Belfast at the Empire Music Hall
(thanks to Stephen Lyon)
--Bellator is conducting fighter tryouts from 12/1 to 12/7 throughout Central and South America. They are looking for fighters who have no contract obligations with another promotion. All weight classes are welcome.
--Former TNA wrestler Jesse Neal announced that he and wife Brittney Savage are expecting a girl in April. Congratulations to the couple. they have a registry at Target.
--A Mad Dog Vachon tribute show took place last night in South St. Paul, MN before 500 fans: Ryan Genesis & Scot Summers b Ben Sailer & Horace the Psychopath, Dan Jesser b Ox, Arik Cannon b Luke Hawx, Darin Corbin b Pete Huge, Ken Anderson b Mitch Paradise, Rikishi & Rennny D b Arya Daivari & Armando Estrada. Among those there were Stan "Big K" Kowalski and Kenny Jay. Anderson replaced no-showing Perry Saturn. They did a ten ball salute for Vachon. Ken Patera was also there signing autographs. (thanks to Chris Ketchmark)
--Lucha Xtreme TV from last night in Fresno: Mike Hayashi b Elemento, Jeff Cobb b Jesse Poole, Mustafa Saed b Will The Beast, Brian Tannen b Mike Rayne. They built the show around Cobb and Saed as the new top stars (thanks to Jon Southerland)
--Empire State Wrestling from last night in Lockport, NY before 900 fans: Rochester Wrecking Crew won tag team Battle Royal, Rhett Titus b Matt Milan, Kevin Bennett b Colin Delaney, Flatliners b The Colony, Trent Barreta won Ilio DiPaolo Memorial Cup over Johnny Gargano, Brandon Thurston, RJ City, Johnny Adams and Gabreal Saint, Chris Cooper b Pepper Parks, Jamin Olivencia b Bill Collier, Gene Snitsky & Will Calrissian & Yuri Koloff b Dalton Castle & Frankie Feathers & Blackjack Phoenix. Kevin Nash did a run in laying people out when it was over. Next show is 1/18 in North Tonawadna, NY at the St. Johnsburg Fire Hall with Zach Gowen and Gregory Iron (thanks to Brandon Thurston)
--Salem Sinner Sixx beat Kyle Matthews to win the AIWF title last night in Clinton, MS.
--Amazon Prime has a new TV series called Betas, a sitcom about app developers. The episode that aired Friday had an indie wrestling plot as one of the main characters was going to buy the AWE promotion. It was clearly written by someone with knowledge of indie wrestling. There was a joke about hanging out with the workers after the show, a Vinny Mac reference and names mentioned included Joey Ryan, Scott Lost, Super Dragon, and Kevin Steen. The treated indie wrestling as a legitimate business and gave it respect (thanks to Steve Neruda)
--Elite Championship Wrestling from last night in Dulac, LA before 250 fans: Steve Anthony b Americos, Andy Dalton b Gregory James, Purple Haze b Matt Riviera, Miss Disslexia b Jessica James, Tim Storm b Scott Phoenix