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        Tonight's lineup:
*Alberto Del Rio vs. John Cena for the WWE title in a last man standing match - This match, as of this writing, is going on last.  At one point the plan was Del Rio vs. Punk at Survivor Series, which means a Del Rio win here.  At the same time, WWE these days likes to have at least one world title change on every PPV because of the feeling it helps the Monday rating.  Plus, the only way Cena is losing last man standing is with interference, which could work given he's going to be in a five vs. five match at Survivor Series, or at least was when it was announced. 
*Mark Henry vs. Big Show for the World title - This isn't the time for a title change and if it was, Show probably isn't the right guy.  Hopefully they've got some major spots lined up for the two because just these two doing a normal match is going to be difficult.
*C.M. Punk & HHH vs. The Miz & R-Truth - Unless they split Punk and HHH up, they should win this match with Punk going over.  Most seem to see this as the real main event on the show.
*Cody Rhodes vs. Randy Orton - Another big chance for Rhodes.  If the match isn't over, won't be good for Rhodes since Orton is one of the most over guys on the roster and a strong worker.
*Sheamus vs. Christian - Sheamus beat him clean last time.  And Sheamus is the guy they are protecting and Christian is the guy they think can lose and still keep his heat.  But not sure about repeating the clean pin on two straight PPVs.  This does have the chance of being one of the best matches on the show.
*Dolph Ziggler vs. Zack Ryder for the U.S. title - The only thing that makes sense out of the two Ziggler matches is that he loses this title but wins the tag title, unless they want to push Ziggler with the gimmick of being double champion since it's clearly his time for elevation. 
*Kofi Kingston & Evan Bourne vs. Ziggler & Jack Swagger for the tag title - Logic would say this title changes, which means it's 50/50 it changes.
*Beth Phoenix vs. Eve Torres for the Divas title   
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        Raw will be live from Austin on Monday, while Smackdown and NXT are taped Tuesday in Houston.  Raw will start the build for Survivor Series and the return of The Rock.
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        We've also got match-by-match coverage of the show, star ratings and poll results on the show.
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--There were four title changes at today's All Japan show at Sumo Hall, with the theme in all cases of someone from outside All Japan beating All Japan to take their belt away.  Jun Akiyama (NOAH) won the Triple Crown for the first time in his career beating Suwama in the main event.  Dark Ozz & Dark Cuervo (AAA) won their world tag team titles from Great Muta & Kenso (Kenzo Suzuki).  Kenny Omega (DDT) won the jr.title from Kai.  And Yuji Okabayashi & Daisuke Sekimoto (Big Japan) won the All-Asia tag team titles from Seiya Sanada & Manabu Soya.
--Nigel McGuinness returns to wrestling on 11/12 in Hamilton, OH for Heartland Wrestling Association at the Great Miami Events Center.  He will also be doing a seminar that day for $30. For more info you can contact This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it   McGuinness had a medical issue that basically ended his career in TNA when he was doing very well.
--Paul Daley beat Luigi Fiorvanti on Friday night at the Bell Centre in Montreal via unanimous decision before 3,500 fans.  It was Daley's first fight back in Montreal since he sucker punched Josh Koscheck, and UFC President Dana White fired him.      
--We're looking for reports on the Dragon Gate shows this week in the U.K. and Germany.  Just heard the Friday night show in Nottingham was great.
--Our weekend edition of Wrestling Observer radio will be up tonight, talking Vengeance, TNA,  ROH and more.  You can send questions in for tonight's show to This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
--Tito Colon, the cousin of Primo, debuted last night on the road as the partner of his cousin losing to the Usos in Corpus Christi.
--Bellator gave Marcos Galvao a bonus based on what he would have gotten had he won the fight with Alexis Vila last night.  I had Galvao winning 29-28.  It was one of those fights where the first two rounds were very close and Galvao solidly won the third round, so Galvao should have won the fight but the scoring system has that flaw that happens fairly often.  While I had Vila in round one and Galvao in two, neither round was decisive.
--Kenny Florian said he is going to move back to lightweight after his loss to Jose Aldo Jr. on 10/8.
--Gangrel (Dave Heath) suffered a serious elbow injury in a motorcycle accident yesterday.  He was riding in Burbank and turned a corner and got hit by an oncoming car.  He was taken to the hospital with a fractured elbow.  There is a story including a photo of Heath's elbow at     
--C.M. Punk wrestled Dean Ambrose (Jon Moxley) on Friday night in Kissimmee, FL for FCW:
--WWE is posting for a job as Senior Vice President in charge of Production for the WWE Network's original programming.  The person will supervise all production of first run programming including in-ring shows, radio shows and reality shows.  Among the jobs are hiring for the network, scheduling and training production and technical staff, keeping everything within budget, delivering things on schedule, approving story concepts, reviewing scripts, scheduling and more.  They want seven years experience in the TV entertainment industry and a working knowledge of both traditional and new media.  The person will report to the Executive Vice President of Television Production.     
--Irv Muchnick noted with Chuck Liddell appearing on Hawaii Five-O on Monday night that back in 1969, Nick Bockwinkel, who was one of the big stars of 50th State Big Time Wrestling at the time, appeared in an episode of the original Hawaii Five-O show.
--A correction on the Marty Jannetty note from yesterday.  Jannetty will be a guest instructor at CHIKARA this week, not a full-time and he's also working this weekend's CHIKARA shows. (thanks to Keith Lipinski) 
--The Evan Tanner movie is up for nomination to be included in the  Los Angeles Film Festival and needs votes.  Reader John Hoven said the movie was incredible, and was a very fair portrait of Tanner.  For more info it's at!/ArdclightCinemas?sk=app_187933831285064
--Do you think Thursday's TNA rating is
A one week aberration like last year 85.1%
Beginning of a TNA turnaround in business 14.9%
--If you are 18-34 and watched Impact this week and rarely do, why?
Wanted to see the title change, but won't keep watching 40.8%
Wanted to see the title change, and will keep watching 16.1%
Wanted to see Hogan as a face and will keep watching 9.8%
Angle vs. Roode follow-up and won't keep watching 9.2%
Angle vs. Roode follow-up and will keep watching 7.5%
Hogan turn but won't keep watching 6.9%
Curious about Bound for Glory but won't keep watching 5.2%
Curious about Bound for Glory and will keep watching 4.6%
--What November show are you most interested in?
Velasquez vs. Dos Santos on FOX 56.7%
Survivor Series with The Rock 36.1%
TNA Turning Point 4.5%
UFC Rua vs. Henderson 2.7%
--Smackdown poll
Excellent 14.3%
Good 48.6%
Average 21.4%
Fair 4.3%
Poor 11.4%
        45.3% of those responding didn't see the show 
--PWX from Friday night in Charlotte:  Caprice Coleman b Joe Black, Jimmy Jack Funk Jr. & Mr. Elite & Zane Riley b Alex Avgerinos & Nick Richards & Joey Janella, Marcellus King b Wolfman, Rhett Titus b Adam Page, Leidi Tapa b Amber O'Neal, Grizzly Redwood & Jake Manning b Cedrick Alexander & Caleb Konley.  Next shows are 12/9 in Charlotte and 12/10 in York, SC with Jerry Lawler and Colt Cabana as the headliners.  Former OMEGA promoter Thomas Simpson will be running those shows.
--There will be a convention on 11/12 at the Courtyard Marriott Hotel near LaGuardia Airport featuring Superstar Billy Graham, Howard Finkel, Jake Roberts, Brutus Beefcake, Ashley Massaro, Velvet Sky, Angelina Love, Tammy Sytch and Ox Baker.  For more info contact Brian at This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it
--Pittsburgh Penguins defenseman Kristopher Letang said in an interview that he's following a training program by Jonathan Chaimberg.  He said he contacted Chaimberg because he was so impressed by Georges St. Pierre's athletic ability and knew Chaimberg was his coach.  Trish Stratus is another person who trains under Chaimberg. (thanks to Pat Laprade)
--NSPW from last night in Quebec City before 266 fans:  One night heavyweight tournament:  Steve Corino b Giovanni, Matt Falco b Mike Rollins, Damian Steele b Dru Onyx, Franky the Mobster b Michael Elgin, Steve Corino b Matt Falco, Franky the Mobster b Damien Steele, Franky the Mobster b Steve Corino to win the tournament, Gabby Gilbert & Simon Martel b LuFisto & Colby Corino
--This coming Friday night in Tijuana has a Ruleta de la Muerte which is an elimination where the loser loses his mask featuring all second generation wrestlers with Gallo Tapado Jr., El Hijo del Rey Misterio, Kung Fu Jr., Ultraman Jr., Dr. Wagner III, El Hijo del Fishman, El Hijo del L.A. Park and Jaque Mate Jr. (thanks to Kris Zellner)
--Traditional Championship Wrestling TV show with Chris Cruise and Bobby Eaton at! 
--I Believe in Wrestling from last night in Orlando:  Lince Dorado b Nick Fame, Mike Reed b Bobby Adams, Santana Garrett NC Wayne Van Dyke, Ray Beez b Jack LeDuc, Chasyn Rance b Jerrelle Clark, Q.T. Marshall b Larry Zbyszko, Mike Cruz & Gus Money b Aaron Epic & Jason Hanley.  Next show is 11/19 (thanks to  Al Haft)    
--SCW from last night in Poulsbo, WA:  Ron Sutherland b Diafullah Dobashi, Demarcus James won Battle Royal to win SCW title, Josh Blaze & Native Assassin b Randy Zellers & True Buddah, Christopher Ryseck b Brickhouse Bereta, Dean Da Drifta over Outpatient and Calibur X in a three-way, Dash Venture b Demarcus James, Chef & Dale Houston & Randy Taylor b Sign Guy & Laz & Leon Valiente (thanks to Charles Short)
--Future Stars of Wrestling TV show at 
--NWA Anarchy from last night in Cornelia, GA:  Lane Vassar & Johnny Dangerous b Gil Quest & JC Walker, Bo Newsome b Skirra Corvus, Anthony Henry lasted 5:00 with Shaun Tempers, Steven Walters b Chris Mayne-DQ, Seven b Brody Chase, Seth Delay b Drew Haskins, Bobby Moore b Jacob Ashworth, Hate Junkies b Tommy Daniels & C.B. Gibson, Bryan Casanova b Jacoby Boykkins-DQ, Azreael b Shadow Jackson
--Hannibal's retirement match is at

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