SUN. UPDATE: Windham update, Odd man out in UFC, Foley's WWE return, WWE name change, RVD, Liddell
Sunday, 30 October 2011 14:34
We're looking for your thoughts on last night's UFC 137 PPV show, so you can leave a thumbs up, thumbs down or thumbs in the middle along with a best and worst match to
We're also looking for reports from the Thursday night TNA house show in San Francisco.
Raw will be live from Atlanta tomorrow and we're looking for reports from the show. C.M. Punk vs. Mark Henry is the announced main event, with Punk getting a title shot at Alberto Del Rio (not Mark Henry) if he beats Mark Henry. There is also a Jim Ross vs. Michael Cole challenge with the winner getting to stay as Jerry Lawler's sidekick on Raw and the loser getting to stay home on Monday nights for the time being.
Smackdown and NXT are taped on Tuesday night in Greenville, SC.
WWE, which had no weekend house shows, returns to Europe on Wednesday for a two week tour. Raw opens Wednesday night in Dublin, Ireland. Thursday has Raw in Nantes, France and Smackdown in Bilbao, Spain.
The return of The Rock at Survivor Series is the subject of the lead story in the new issue of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter. The issue is up on the site today, and a back issue was put on the site yesterday. In addition, our most talked about issue of the year, the Hall of Fame issue is available on the site for web site subscribers, and you can still get the issue with a new print subscription if requested.
We also have a look at the Viacom purchase of Bellator and what it means for U.S. MMA going forward, as well as notes on two different sets of the leading wrestling companies in the world this past week in discussions to further working agreements and why.
Our lead story talks about the angle setting up Rock & John Cena vs. The Miz & R-Truth. We look at how tickets moved for Survivor Series when Rock was announced, as well as what the scalper situation of ticket sales based on anticipating huge demand. We also look at the unique effect the return of Rock has on the popularity of John Cena and why. We look at the match itself, whether Miz & R-Truth are the right opponents, notes on HHH vs. Kevin Nash, thoughts on the HHH angle, title matches and more.
We also look at the Vengeance PPV, including major notes on the show, thoughts on the creative, business notes and match-by-match coverage with star ratings.
We also look at the business of WrestleMania this past year, the value to a city, comparisons with the Super Bowl and Final Four, comparisons to UFC in Toronto and other UFC events, and a breakdown of who bought tickets to WrestleMania and from where. We also note why John Cena gets a different reaction based on different types of shows.
We've got notes on WrestleMania tickets, an update on Gerald Brisco, WWE fires announcer and tries to reprise Michael Cole character into Spanish, updates on the plans for the WWE Network, new positions WWE is looking to hire, a WWE policy change that was changed again bringing comedy to the commentary, Mick Foley's return, former WWE wrestler says he's going into MMA in 2012, update on Batista, lots of names having tryouts for WWE positions last week and why. We also look at the company's feeling on twitter, Heath Slater talks his suspension, Raw Canada numbers as well as what percentage of Raw viewers watch live and not live. We also look at the return of a wrestler that looks to be fairly soon with a new name, Legends roundtable shows filmed, WWE wrestlers working non-WWE stars, and the son of a wrestling legend doing a tryout camp. We also look at post-Christmas WWE lineups including a non-wrestler booked for an angle which at this point hasn't taken place. Plus we've got notes from the lone weekend house show and business notes.
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We also look at the Bellator purchase by Viacom and what that means to the company going forward. We look at the plans for 2013, why this is going to take so long to develop, how this changes thing for Bellator and comparisons made between Bellator and TNA.
We also look at ads aimed at major professionals by both UFC and WWE, what they claim, what is and isn't accurate about claims, the breakdown of who actually watches UFC and WWE on television and more.
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--Father of a wresting family passes away
--Update on Jushin Liger in Mexico
--Star quits CMLL
--Davey Richards defends the ROH title in Mexico
--Legendary brother team faces former WWE stars
--Updated ratings from Mexico
--Upcoming major shows
--Two reality show ideas that are being talked about in wrestling, one to have a star become the person playing a former top star and another based on Tough Enough
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--More on the change in the hierarchy at Pro Wrestling NOAH
--How much money did one of the biggest shows of the year raise for charity
--Thoughts on New Japan's last major show
--Update on the New Japan annual tag team tournament
--Crazy Antonio Inoki statement
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--One night revival of one of the 90s most popular wrestling companies with old stars coming back
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--Two wrestling shows look to be on their last legs
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--A look at a reunion of wrestles from the Gulas territory
--Story behind a former indie wrestler killed by New York police in a fight
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--Update on Georges St. Pierre's injuries
--More on UFC losses for GSP not fighting
--Notes on UFC going back into theaters for 3-D shows
--Why UFC PPV buyers say they aren't buying recent shows
--Ticket sales for all the upcoming UFC shows
--Update on Feb. 25 UFC plans
--Note on movie "The Hammer" about the life of UFC star Matt Hamill
--UFC donating money to a presidential candidate
--Kenny Florian talks his future
--UFC foes mobilize and jump on former statements
--Lots of new UFC fights
--Notes on the last Bellator show and the bantamweight tournament
--Boxing PPV numbers
--Harrowing weight cutting story
--Bobby Lashley's next MMA fight
--Former MMA names arrested this past week
--Notes on major indie MMA shows with name fighters
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--Barry Windham's issues were officially diagnosed as a massive heart attack. He's currently in stable condition in a hospital in Florida that he was just moved to.
--Malki Kawa, the agent for Carlos Condit, wrote, "Carlos Condit didn't just step aside. GSP is choosing to fight Nick." Well, Dana is choosing to promote Nick. He said he's sure White is going to make it worth Condit's while.
--WWE has stopped advertising Mick Foley for the 11/14 Raw show in Boston that was billed as "Rock Reunion," because of The Rock & Sock Connection planned reunion. Foley had never been told 100% when advertised he was on the show but he was talked with about the date.
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--It is now official that Sin Cara Negro's wrestling name is Hunico, the name he used before becoming the second Sin Cara.
--At the TNA house shows over the weekend, because they were doing Bobby Roode as a heel defending against James Storm, Jeremy Borash made an announcement regarding what happened at TV at the start of both shows.
--The GSP vs. Nick Diaz welterweight title fight, if it takes place on 2/4, will be airing in theaters around the U.S. in 3-D.
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--What show do you think will do a bigger rating
UFC on FOX 11/12 62.4%
Three-hour Raw with Rock 11/14 37.6%
--Who takes this fight?
Mayhem Miller 51.7%
Michael Bisping 48.3%
--What company has the worst problems with PEDs
--Poll on Smackdown
43.9% of those responding didn't see the show
--USA Today will be doing a major feature on UFC on 11/9.
--Chuck Liddell was on ESPN's Sunday NFL Countdown show today talking about NFL players tapping out during games (thanks to Brian Henke)
--Cain Velasquez was on FOX NFL today with Howie Long. Long made a joke and Cain didn't laugh, but everyone else did. (thanks to Bill Beecroft)
--On last night's show, Todd Martin went 5-0, while Me, Bryan and Mike Sempervive were 4-1, Josh Nason and Mike Sawyer with 3-2 and Oliver Copp was 2-3.
--Chuck Langerman's daily wrestling trivia is actually regarding UFC referee Herb Dean. While Dean is best known as a referee, he's competed as a fighter and holds a 2-3 record with his last fight being a TKO loss to Dave Legeno at Cage Rage 22 on July 14, 2002, in London, England. In 2003, he lost via submission to Joe Riggs. John McCarthy has never fought in MMA, but he was contacted to fight in Pride, but turned it down when he was told he had to do the job for Nobuhiko Takada, his planned opponent.
--Cima announced that Uhaa Nation will be making his debut in Dragon Gate in Japan shortly. Rich Swann is currently in Japan until the end of the year. (thanks to Daniel Short)
--Tommy Dreamer will be on the CHIKARA iPPV on 11/13 from Philadelphia. Dreamer will be in the corner of Eddie Kingston when he faces Mike Quackenbush in the main event to crown the Grand Champion of CHIKARA.
--Preliminary estimates of Friday night's World Series final game is that it did 23.2 million viewers. Final numbers will be out later.
--Impact Zone Wrestling on 11/5 in Lawton, OK at the Impact Arena on iPPV through GFL.tv
--River City Wrestling on 11/5 in San Antonio at the Good Shepherd Lutheran Church.
--USWO from Friday night in Nashville: Psycho Medic b Shawn Hoodrich, L.T. Falk b Bryan Casey, Nick Iggy & Mike Revick d Damien Payne & Josh Crow, Jocephus b Chris Michaels, Bully Douglas b Gary Valiant (thanks to Jimmie Daniel)
--CZW on 11/5 in Indianapolis and 11/12 in Philadelphia at the Asylum Arena.
--Crossfire Entertainment on 11/5 in Nashville at the Fairgrounds with Fit Finlay making his local debut against Al Snow in a first-time ever match, plus New Age Outlaws vs David Young & Sigmon, Kid Kash vs. Steve Richards and appearances by Maria Kanellis and Shane Douglas.
--CMLL on Friday night in Guadalajara: Mr. Trueno & Rey Trueno b Los Rayos Tapatios I & II, Fuego & Guerrero Maya Jr. & Stuka Jr. b Exterminador & Malefico & Rafaga, Dalis la Caribena & Estrellita & Goya Kong b Princesa Sugei & Seductora & Mima Shimoda, Olimpico & Psicosis & Volador Jr. b La Mascara & Metro & Sagrado to keep Mexican national trios titles, Atlantis b Ultimo Guerrero
--There is a special FULL show at Arena Monterrey today with Blue Demon Jr. & El Hijo del Santo & L.A. Park vs. Carlito & Colt Cabana & Rikishi. Monday night has a show in the border town of Matamoros with Mil Mascaras & Dos Caras Sr. & Cassandro vs. Carlito & Chavo Guerrero Jr. & Rikishi. Tuesday in Reynosa has Mil Mascaras & Dos Caras Sr. & El Hijo del Canek vs. Carlito & Chavo Guerrero Jr. & Rikishi (thanks to Kris Zellner)
--SWA on 11/5 at the Forest City, NC Armory featuring the return of Chris Hamrick.
--GOUGE from last night in Wake Forest, NC: Mickey Gambino b Goat and Redman to win jr. title, Otto Schwanz b Leatherface, Lou Marconi won three-way over Mike West and Vector to win the Spaceman Frank Hickey Memorial Scientific Trophy, Rob McBride & Seymour Snott b Frank Stalleto & Mickey Gamino, Jimmy Jack Funk Jr. b Sean Alexander
--Mid Missouri Wrestling Alliance from last night in Lemay, MO: Lumberjacks (managed by Dave Hebner) b Tony Raze & Big Texan, Brandon Espinosa b Dave Osborne, Phil E. Blunt b Johnny Courageous, Dave Vaughn b Max Archer, Gary Jackson b Ace Hawkins, Brandon Espinosa b Phil E. Blunt-COR, Brandon Espinosa b LaMarcus Clinton, Gary Jackson b Dave Vaughn, Stacy O'Brien b Jimmy D, Brandon Espinosa b Gary Jackson to win one-night tournament (thanks to Patrick Brandmeyer)
--ECWA doubleheader with shows at 4 p.m. and 7 p.m. on 11/19 in Newark, DE at the Greater Newark Boys & Girls Club featuring a tag team tournament.
--CRW from last night in Montreal before 115 fans: Big Bryan Kevin b Maverick, Chris Cruze & Johnny Jack Spade b Shayne Hawke Stew Ramjattan, Mike Gibson b Leon Saver, Super Smash Brothers b Thomas Dubois & Mathieu St.Jacques, LuFisto & Kalamity b Angelie Skyde & Missy, Pitbull Brando b John Fury in a dog collar match, Paul Rosenberg b Pat Skillz, Dru Onyx b Sylvain Grenier, Jake Matthews won three-way over Michael Elgin and Darkko, Davey Richards b Kevin Steen. Ted DiBiase Sr. was at the show unadvertised since he was a last minute addition doing a meet and greet (thanks to Pat Laprade)