MON. UPDATE: More from Saturday's UFC, Guerrero anniversary, Impact & Raw notes for tonight

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        We're looking for your thoughts on last night's TNA Turning Point PPV as well as Saturday night's UFC on Fox.  Regarding UFC on Fox, let us know if you saw the full version, international version or the one hour FOX version because those are three very different types of shows and reactions.  We're also looking for a best and worst match for TNA, and if you saw more than just the FOX version for UFC.
        We're looking for live reports from Raw tonight in Boston with the dark matches, Superstars matches and anything else not evident to the live crowd, as well as attendance.  Raw is three hours tonight starting at 8 p.m. from Boston.  The Rock and Mick Foley are there live.  The Jim Ross/Michael Cole angle is scheduled to finally take place.  And Brodus Clay appears.
        We're also looking for reports from tonight's Impact tapings in Orlando.  
        We're also looking for reports on today's Saturday's Dragon Gate USA show in Philadelphia and Sunday's Dragon Gate USA show in New York, as well as Thursday's Smackdown show in Zurich, Switzerland, Wednesday's Raw show in Nottingham, England, Wednesday's Smackdown show in Brussels, Belgium, and Saturday's Raw in Minehead, England and Smackdown in Frankfort, Germany.
        There is also an Impact taping from Orlando.
        Tuesday is a Smackdown and NXT taping in Bridgeport, CT and Impact tapings in Orlando.  
        The record setting first weekend gross for WrestleMania is among the lead stories in the newest issue of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, which also has a detailed preview of Cain Velasquez vs. Junior Dos Santos and why it's one of the biggest fights in UFC history, the business of UFC on network TV, and the biggest money events in UFC and WWE history.
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--A few more notes about the UFC show on Saturday.   About 25% of the audience left at the end of the main event based on early numbers, although that pattern should have been expected.  As noted, the rating would have been significantly higher with a longer fight.  The rating was along the lines of what most thought it would be given the fight going a minute and even with that, higher than advertisers were promised.  The ratings up yesterday were just preliminary numbers as the actual rating will not be released until tomorrow.
--Over the weekend, the Culinary Workers Union was picketing UFC headquarters in Las Vegas and trying to mobilize people to send messages to FOX to cancel its contract.    
--Yesterday was the sixth anniversary of the death of Eddy Guerrero right before he was to leave for the annual European tour.  Vickie Guerrero talked a lot about it on twitter, noting she made homemade lasagna, Eddy's favorite food, for dinner yesterday.  A lot of the wrestlers, both in and out of WWE mentioned it.  I expect a lot of banners on Raw tonight and hope in three hours they can put on a short music video.  In Orlando last night, there were banners in the crowd that they showed on close camera shots even though they didn't talk about it on the air.  He had his issues as everyone knows, but he was a kind guy and when it came to doing the charity work that they like to show on television, there are a lot of guys who would do it grudgingly, a lot who do it routinely, but Guerrero was one of the very few who if he would meet someone like a Make-a-wish kid would give them his phone number and take their calls and stay in touch.
--So much for the injury angle.  James Storm is scheduled for TNA television tonight.  Main event will be a 10 women Royal Rumble with the winner getting a shot at Gail Kim probably at the next PPV show.
--Bobby Roode vs. A.J. Styles in a 30 minute Iron Man match will headline the 12/11 TNA Final Resolution PPV show.

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--Johnny Gargano won the Open the Freedom Gate title from Yamato in the main event of last night's Dragon Gate USA show in New York.  As noted, we're looking for reports on that show.
--For those in the area, the UFC open workouts are open to the public from Noon to 3 p.m. at Heroes Gym in San Jose.  Shogun Rua and Wanderlei Silva will be training at Noon.  Cung Le and Brian Bowles will be training at 1 p.m. and Dan Henderson and Urijah Faber will be there at 2 p.m.  The public is also invited to the UFC 139 press conference at the Golden Gate Room at the Fort Mason Center in San Francisco at 1 p.m. on Thursday.  Weigh-ins are at the HP Pavilion at 4 p.m. on Friday.  Fight Club members can also attend a Josh Koscheck Q&A at 2 p.m. on Friday at the HP Pavilion. 
--Chael Sonnen today:  "Walk away Andy.  It's not worth it.  Don't let the brass pressure you.  You aren't that good, and I'm not that nice."
--For whatever reason, probably as a rib, at Saturday's WWE house show in Frankfurt, Germany, when Yoshi Tatsu came out, they played the song "Red Red Wine" instead of his usual entrance music. (thanks to Barry Lammers)
--All the prelims fights from Saturday's UFC show in San Jose will be streaming on the UFC Facebook page. 
--Rich Franklin, Rafael Cordiero, Cung Le and Josh Koscheck will be on Inside MMA tonight at 8 p.m. on HDNet, head-to-head with the first hour of Raw.  Franklin and Cordiero will be live in studio, while Le and Koscheck will be via satellite from San Jose.  Shane Carwin will also be doing a phone interview.
--Carwin's back surgery that Bryan talked about on the radio show this weekend actually is scheduled for tomorrow.    
--If there aren't enough shows on PPV this coming weekend, M-1 Global is presenting a live PPV which will lose their ass on to an incredible degree on very early Sunday morning called the Battle of Legends headlined by Fedor Emelianenko vs. Jeff Monson from Olympic Hall in Moscow.  Show starts at 7:30 a.m. Sunday morning on the East Coast and 4:30 a.m. on the West Coast, or right after Observer radio's post-show for the UFC event.

--The UFC 139 Countdown show on Spike airs Thursday night after Impact at 11 p.m.

--Stephen Espinoza was named the new Executive Vice Prsident and General Manager for Showtime Sports today.  He takes the spot vacated when Ken Herschman moved to HBO.   So he will be the guy UFC officials will be working with if the Strikeforce deal is renewed, which as of the weekend, it had not been.

--The Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame in Waterloo, IA announced they would be honoring John Layfield and Bill Apter this week.  Layfield will receive the Lou Thesz Award for an individual in wrestling who has taken the skills he learned in the sport into public service.  Apter will get the James Melby Award for excellence in pro wrestling journalism.  The two Hall of Fame inductees this year will be Kurt Angle and Don Curtis.  The ceremony will be 7/13 and 7/14 in Waterloo.
--Masaaki Mochizuki, Cima, BxB Hulk, Akira Tozawa, Masato Yoshino, Naruki Doi, Pac and Susumu Yokosuka will be appearing at the WrestleReunion convention in late January in Los Angeles.  The Dragon Gate USA show will be on 1/27, while PWG will run an afternoon show on 1/29 featuring the aforementioned Dragon Gate wrestlers.
--Best wishes for a speedy recovery to TNA's Bob Ryder, who is undergoing surgery for a tumor on his spine on Thursday.  
--Today's Chuck Langerman pro wrestling trivia talks about short-lived WCW wrestler Dale "The Demon" Torborg, who graduated Jonathan Dayton Regional High School in Springfield, NJ in 1990.  His father, Jeff Torborg, was a well known baseball star.  Dale played baseball and soccer in high school, went to Northwestern University where he got a B.S. in Radio, TV and Films.  He played minor league ball until he was hit in the face with a pitch.  He worked for WCW and is now the strength and conditioning coach for the Chicago White Sox.
--Correct URL for the Bret Hart video from Hockey Night in Canada on Saturday is at
--For Don Cherry talking about Kelly Kelly's romance with Sheldon Souray is at 
--Poll on Smackdown from Friday
Excellent 19.0%
Good 54.3%
Average 11.2%
Fair 4.3%
Poor 11.2%
        41.7% of those responding didn't see the show
--Poll on ROH from Saturday
Excellent 47.2%
Good 34.7%
Average 6.9%
Fair 0.0%
Poor 11.1%
        54.1% of those responding didn't see the show
--Poll on Saturday's Bellator show
Excellent 29.3%
Good 46.3%
Average 12.2%
Fair 2.4%
Poor 9.8%
        74.8% of those responding didn't see the show
--Poll on UFC on FOX
Excellent 11.2%
Good 35.4%
Average 21.0%
Fair 12.1%
Poor 20.2%
        15.2% of those responding didn't see the show
--Best TV show of the past week
Smackdown 24.0%
UFC on FOX 23.0%
ROH 17.4%
Impact 13.9%
Ultimate Fighter 11.1%
Raw 4.9%
Bellator 2.4%
Inside MMA 1.7%
CMLL 1.4% 
--The XKO promotion that runs out of Arlington, TX is doing a deal for their TV taping for their weekly show on Ch. 21, which takes place on 12/3, you can get a free one month membership at their gym.  The show takes place at the Gym Combative Sports Arena in Arlington.  One of the competitors on the show is Anthony Macias, who has fought in UFC and Pride and was the guy Dan Severn threw around with all the suplexes in his UFC debut 17 years ago.
--Trent Vandrisse talks to Larry Goodman, Mike Johnson and Mohamed Ali Vaez at
--UWC on Saturday night in Browns Mills, NJ before 130 fans:  Justice Garrison b Vinny D, Ripper b Dave Patera, Billy Lassiter b Ryan Haston, Big Rib & Philly Madison b Twiggy Ramirez & Warhead, Geoffrey Bravo b Biggie Biggs, Mighty Mo b RV1, Andd Vivians & Adam Aceds b Slayer & Orphan, Silly Billy b Ahtu.  Next show is their annual Toys for Tots show on 12/3 in Pemberton, NJ a the Burlington County College.
--Daniel Cena, John's brother a police officer in West Newbury, MA, failed suit for $500,000 against The Neptune Club and Robert Nolan, who was driving drunk and crashed into his car almost five years ago, breaking his leg in two places and causing him to miss substantial work time.  Nolan had pleaded guilty to drunken driving and recklessly and negligently causing serious bodily injury.  He's suing the Club for serving him nine 12-ounce beers and when the accident took place, Nolan had a 0.24 blood alcohol level.  He's suing for $109,000 in lost wages and $42,000 in medical expenses.  A trial date is expected to be given for nearly next year.  A story on it is at
--There is a story at on Drew McIntyre.  The story portrays him as a much bigger star than he is.  He said he gets nervous performing in Scotland.  He noted Wade Barrett and Sheamus were two of his best friends as they started together on the Irish indie circuit.  While not directly saying so, he strongly hinted his initial push was a negative because it caused a lot of resentment and jealousy.  He said his goal is to get into the Hall of Fame.            
--Ring Wars Carolina on Saturday night in Red Springs, MNC at the High School.
--Emerson Witner talks the 2002 Royal Rumble at
--WAR on 11/26 in Lima, OH is teaming with the Unleashed Youth Ministries and the West Ohio Food Bank for a food drive and fundraising event.  A $10 donation and you get ringside tickets and a $5 donation and you can get GA tickets for the show at the UAW Hall.
--Pro Wrestling Phoenix on 11/12 in Council Bluffs, IA:  Vic Victory & Darren Russell b Preston Maxwell & Shawn Nautilus, Joe Anderson b Troy Hansen, Jeff O'Shea b SM King, Joey Daniels b Brian Gott, Zach Thompson & Jimmy Rockwell b Abu Colossus & Sean Cruz, Ryan Slade b Sir Bradley Charles (Lance Storm Academy graduate), Matty Star NC Branden Juarez.  Next show is 12/17 at the National Guard Armory in Council Bluffs.     
--New England Championship Wrestling from Saturday night in Abington, MA before 500 fans:  Tony Delfonzo b Elia Marakropolous, Nick Farenheight b Devin Blaze & Tommy Trainwreck, Alexxis Neveah b Luscious Latasha, Giant Pharoah b Scotty Slade & Todd Sople, Joe Poe b B.A. Tatum, Julian Starr & Taka Suzuki b D.C. Dillinger & Brian Fury & Brandon Locke.  Next show is 12/10 in Carver, MA at the High School featuring Nunzio and Bobby Fish. (thanks to Edward Wise)
--Lex Luger and Nikita Koloff are pitching a supplement called Vemma in Augusta, GA at the Ryan's on Peach Orchard tonight at 6:45 p.m. (thanks to Ron Niemi)
--Round 5 announced a release of Ultimate Collector Series 8 action figures of Jon Jones, Georges St. Pierre, Brock Lesnar, Jose Aldo and Roy Nelson.  GSP looks nothing like GSP.  And Roy Nelson isn't muscular like Brock Lesnar, but he's not that fat either.
--D.J. Self was announced today as the latest hip hop star as part of the Urban Wrestling Federation.  Self will be on the next PPV, which is being taped in a few weeks and will debut on PPV on 1/22.
--Weigh-ins for Friday's Strikeforce show will be on Thursday at 4 p.m. at the Key West Ballroom at the Palms Casino in Las Vegas.  The show airs Friday night on Showtime at 11 p.m. from The Palms.  Antwain Britt vs. Lumumba Sayres is the billed main event, but everyone knows the real main event is Ronda Rousey vs. Julia Budd.  Just some people are not aware that women can be on top, which can make aspects of life boring.       
--HWA from Saturday night in Hamilton, OH:  Reed Bentley b Mikey D, Dre Jacobs b Mitch Magnus, Dave Crist won over Tom McClane, Michael Von Wolfgang and Juice Jennings, Jon Murray & Clark Konnor & Tim Lutz b Tripp Cassidy & Sid Fabulous & Jerry Andrews, Dr Bones b James Avery, Chris Hall b Gerome Phillips, American Wrestling Warriors b Heat Seekers, Dustin Rayz b Doug Charles, Chad Collyer b Nigel McGuinness. (thanks to Adam Sanders)
--MCW on Friday night in Middletown, OH at Madison High School is headlined by Nigel McGuinness, Scott Steiner and Carlito.
--The trial of Andre Davis, who is facing 15 counts of felonious assault and up to 120 years in prison for allegedly having sex with women while he knew he was HIV positive and not telling them is at
--Rich Franklin appearing on Good Day Los Angeles on KTTV is at 
--IPW from Saturday night in Stanmore Bay, New Zealand:  Rocket b Brian St. James, Link & Ant & Taylor Adams b Liger & Pat Shisk & Brother T, Clemenston Brothers b Fire Mountain, James Shaw & Johnny Idol b Liam Fury & Travis Banks, Alexander DCOR Tykade, Evie b Britenay, Vinny Dunn b Alfred Valentine (thanks to Steve Ogilvie)

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